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    So what I'm hearing is, I should just save the money and get something better. It's worth it to save and get better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrettonJudy7 View Post
    So what I'm hearing is, I should just save the money and get something better. It's worth it to save and get better.
    In a nutshell, yes.

    How much "further out" do you expect the 4x to help you over the red dot?
    I push back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrettonJudy7 View Post
    So what I'm hearing is, I should just save the money and get something better. It's worth it to save and get better.
    The flip side here is what are you shooting at using your red dot that you can't hit at "midrange"?

    Pop cans at 200 with a red dot = challenging.
    Man sized target at 200 with a red dot = cake.

    Low power variable scope are all the rage now but there still are flip to side 3x magnifiers out there in your budget. A&A might even have one in stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrettonJudy7 View Post
    I am looking for an optic for my AR. Something on the low end, but decent. A good intro optic. I want something around 4 power. Looking to do more midrange shooting. Currently using a Bushnell red dot, and wanting to get a little more range. Of course I would love to get an ACOG, but as my wallet does not allow me the fortune of that, I have to settle for a lot less. My budget is between $50 - $125ish? What are some options for a decent 4 power optic without breaking the bank?
    A year ago I was right where you're at. I found a decent 1-4x24 AR scope with red-lit dot at the center of crosshairs. You might have to shop around for better street price like I did when I got it for $125. It was good enough to take my first two coyotes at 100 yards! I hadn't heard of this brand before but it's a decent starter option with good battery life. https://www.traditionsfirearms.com/product/ar-patrolman-1-4x24-scope-a1103

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    The false economy of a cheap deal has gotten us all at one time or another. If you overpay and still get quality, you're only out the money you overpaid. But if you underpay? You're out the money you paid AND the function, since you now have to buy that item again.

    I actually don't like the idea of a LPVO. I think they are kind of the worst of all worlds. Neither the speed of a RDS nor the precision of a finer-crosshair optic.

    I personally think most of us almost never need anything between 1 and 4. We generally either want 1x or something more (4x, 6x, etc). How may people do you know with a LPVO actually run it between the two extremes? ALmost nobody IMO.

    Since you either want the speed and view of a 1x or the precision of more mag, why not sidesaddle?

    Something like this would be truly useful:




    If you can live with the weight, a 6x42 SWFA has a lot going for it: very bright (42mm for only 6x). Large exit pupil (again 42mm for only 6x). Good FOV. Reasonable glass. Good reticle. Excellent turret tracking. Physically very tough.

    For shorter range stuff, you can either piggyback a mini reflex/RDS or use offset irons.

    Leupold makes the best take on this idea I've seen yet:
    https://www.leupold.com/scopes/rifle-scopes/d-evo

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    Quote Originally Posted by 42769vette View Post
    I retract my statement. I forgot we just got a refurb shipment. Those deals are the only time its possible, and that's assuming mount is not figured into budget.
    Thanks for the post. Picked up a PST 2.5-10x32 from the refurb's.

    Mike

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