HS-6 with .45ACP, 380 Auto and .32 H&R....

[opus1776]

As we all know, powder is still hard to come by. One of the few powders that seem to be staying in stock for more than one millisecond is HS-6, which works well for me in 9mm. Has anyone tried HS-6 in the following calibers/combinations? What were your results? Not asking for load info, just how did the powder perform—did it burn completely, etc. The following combos are:


.45 ACP with 200 gr. plated bullet;

.380 with 95 gr. plated bullet;

.32 H&R with 60 & 85 gr. XTP, and 100 gr. JSP.


In order to get enough HS-6 to make the shipping/hazmat worth it, I need to get 32 lbs of powder, hence my questions….


Tnx.










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[Sniper 79]

Not sure of the load info but my friend likes HS-6 in .45acp with 230 grain round nose of the plated variety

 

[trophyhunter]

HS~6 and AA#5 are my two favorite powders, you can load anything with them they typically perform much better loaded at or near maximum range.

Here's data on .45 acp:

Cartridge          : .45 Auto (ACP) (SAAMI)Bullet             : .451, 200, RN Rainier
Useable Case Capaci: 15.420 grain H2O = 1.001 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.260 inch = 32.00 mm
Barrel Length      : 5.0 inch = 127.0 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon HS-6


Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !


Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms


-20.0   54     7.60    864     332   12618   2764     76.5    0.760
-18.0   55     7.79    884     347   13304   2867     77.7    0.740
-16.0   57     7.98    904     363   14018   2971     78.8    0.721
-14.0   58     8.17    924     379   14761   3074     79.9    0.703
-12.0   59     8.36    944     396   15534   3178     81.0    0.686
-10.0   61     8.55    964     412   16338   3281     82.0    0.669
-08.0   62     8.74    983     429   17175   3384     83.0    0.653
-06.0   64     8.93   1003     447   18044   3487     84.0    0.638  ! Near Maximum !
-04.0   65     9.12   1023     465   18948   3589     85.0    0.623  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   66     9.31   1042     483   19887   3690     85.9    0.609  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   68     9.50   1062     501   20863   3791     86.8    0.595  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Data on .380 acp:

Cartridge          : .380 Auto (9mm Kurz)Bullet             : .355, 95,  RN Rainier 380 Auto
Useable Case Capaci: 7.795 grain H2O = 0.506 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 0.970 inch = 24.64 mm
Barrel Length      : 3.0 inch = 76.2 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon HS-6


Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !


Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms


-20.0   62     4.40    774     126   11308   3504     57.8    0.520
-18.0   63     4.51    794     133   11944   3657     59.0    0.507
-16.0   65     4.62    813     140   12611   3812     60.2    0.494
-14.0   67     4.73    833     146   13310   3969     61.3    0.480
-12.0   68     4.84    853     153   14042   4128     62.5    0.467
-10.0   70     4.95    873     161   14808   4289     63.6    0.455
-08.0   71     5.06    893     168   15611   4451     64.7    0.443
-06.0   73     5.17    913     176   16451   4615     65.8    0.432
-04.0   74     5.28    933     184   17330   4780     66.9    0.421  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   76     5.39    953     192   18250   4946     68.0    0.410  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   77     5.50    974     200   19213   5114     69.1    0.400  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Data on 32 H&R with 60g XTP:

Cartridge          : .32 H&R MagnumBullet             : .312, 60, Hornady HP/XTP 32010
Useable Case Capaci: 14.910 grain H2O = 0.968 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.350 inch = 34.29 mm
Barrel Length      : 4.0 inch = 101.6 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon HS-6


Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !


Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms


-20.0   49     6.72   1154     178   14567   6775     71.7    0.481
-18.0   51     6.89   1181     186   15300   7043     72.9    0.470
-16.0   52     7.06   1208     195   16062   7312     74.1    0.460
-14.0   53     7.22   1235     203   16854   7585     75.2    0.450
-12.0   54     7.39   1262     212   17675   7858     76.3    0.440
-10.0   56     7.56   1289     222   18527   8134     77.4    0.431
-08.0   57     7.73   1317     231   19410   8410     78.5    0.422
-06.0   58     7.90   1344     241   20327   8689     79.6    0.413  ! Near Maximum !
-04.0   59     8.06   1371     250   21276   8967     80.6    0.405  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   61     8.23   1398     260   22260   9246     81.7    0.396  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   62     8.40   1425     271   23279   9525     82.7    0.388  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Data on 32 H&R with 85g XTP:

Cartridge          : .32 H&R MagnumBullet             : .312, 85, Hornady HP/XTP 32050
Useable Case Capaci: 12.979 grain H2O = 0.843 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.350 inch = 34.29 mm
Barrel Length      : 4.0 inch = 101.6 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon HS-6


Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !


Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms


-20.0   47     5.52    979     181   14810   6151     79.3    0.570
-18.0   48     5.66   1001     189   15537   6378     80.4    0.557
-16.0   49     5.80   1024     198   16291   6607     81.5    0.544
-14.0   50     5.93   1046     206   17071   6836     82.5    0.532
-12.0   51     6.07   1068     215   17879   7066     83.5    0.520
-10.0   52     6.21   1090     224   18714   7296     84.5    0.509
-08.0   54     6.35   1112     233   19578   7526     85.5    0.498
-06.0   55     6.49   1134     243   20472   7755     86.4    0.487  ! Near Maximum !
-04.0   56     6.62   1155     252   21395   7984     87.3    0.477  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   57     6.76   1177     262   22349   8212     88.2    0.467  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   58     6.90   1199     271   23334   8439     89.0    0.457  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Data on 32 H&R with Speer 100gr HP to get some idea of what a similar JSP would run at:

Cartridge          : .32 H&R MagnumBullet             : .312, 100, Speer JHP 3981
Useable Case Capaci: 10.850 grain H2O = 0.704 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.350 inch = 34.29 mm
Barrel Length      : 4.0 inch = 101.6 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon HS-6


Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !


Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms


-20.0   47     4.64    883     173   14647   5201     81.5    0.615
-18.0   48     4.76    902     181   15363   5389     82.6    0.602
-16.0   49     4.87    922     189   16105   5577     83.6    0.589
-14.0   50     4.99    942     197   16873   5764     84.6    0.577
-12.0   52     5.10    961     205   17667   5952     85.6    0.566
-10.0   53     5.22    981     214   18489   6139     86.5    0.554
-08.0   54     5.34   1000     222   19340   6326     87.4    0.543
-06.0   55     5.45   1020     231   20218   6512     88.3    0.532  ! Near Maximum !
-04.0   56     5.57   1039     240   21127   6696     89.1    0.522  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   57     5.68   1058     249   22066   6881     89.9    0.512  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   59     5.80   1077     258   23035   7063     90.7    0.502  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

 

[opus1776]

trophyhunter, tnx for the QL calcs. I was going to do them myself at some point (I have a copy of QL). From the calcs it looks like using HS-6 in .380 is out---its too slow for this cartridge.












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"Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels" K. Moss
You can NEVER be too rich or too thin.
Life is not a journey, but a series of unplanned detours...
Perfection: is not a goal---it's a demanded expectation.