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    Expert rich8483's Avatar

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    6.0 grains of Tite Group in 44-40?

    This question may seem odd.

    I am not looking for advice on reloading but rather on a box of ammunition that has already been reloaded that I inherited in a lot of firearms and ammo.

    I received a full/unfired box of 44-40 that were loaded by a place I believe in Silver Lake IN with a paper in it stating the following

    .44-40
    December '14
    Case: WIN
    Primer: CCI 300
    Powder : TITE GROUP
    Wt: 6.0
    Bullet: 200grRN FP LEAD
    OAL: 1.580

    1. Is there anything wrong with 4.5 year old ammo?
    2. What kind of velocity should I expect from 6 grains of tite group behind a 200 grain bullet of currently unknown diameter?
    3. What kind of pressure???.... is it safe to shoot in model '92 Rossi reproduction?

    Thanks for any and all help.
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    Looking quickly in 50th lyman manual, 200gr JHP max load is 6.0 grains Titegroup at oal of 1.592"

    For 200gr lead cast it shows OAL of 1.580" with start load of 5.7 grain with max load 6.4 grain

    As far as being 5 years old if it was loaded and stored right there should be no issue, however it doesnt seem like you know the whole history of these being part of a package deal.

    Always be careful with reloads especially ones that you're not sure of the history.

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    From Hodgdon's reloading data center:
    using Titegroup
    200gr lead rnfp
    coal- 1.600"
    starting load-5.0gr....956fps...8400psi
    max load- 6.2gr...1117fps...12,900psi

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    I was just given a bunch of handloaded .45 Colt and ACP. I broke them down. The brass is done cleaned and I'm melting the bullets into new ones this week.
    Sounds like the LABEL says it's a safe load. How you proceed is up to you.

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    The load looks like a safe load my question is does what the label says it is match what it really is. I would break them down and dump the powder. My hand and gun are worth more to me than a box of unknown reloads. I learned the hard way don't trust other peoples reloads even if you see them shooting them. All you need is one over charge believe me it hurts.

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    It's sounds like your ammo was made or reloaded by a small, but possibly legitimate licensed outfit. What is the name? Some have a good reputation and some not so much.

    FWIW - Your Rossi 92 rifle is a fairly strong gun. It's been chambered in a variety of calibers, including 44 Mag which runs at much higher pressure than 44-40 Win.
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    ^ This, no issues with a 92 Rossi.
    Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth shattering Kaboom.

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    The paper says "Rose Reloading LLC"
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmmoManAaron View Post
    It's sounds like your ammo was made or reloaded by a small, but possibly legitimate licensed outfit. What is the name? Some have a good reputation and some not so much.

    FWIW - Your Rossi 92 rifle is a fairly strong gun. It's been chambered in a variety of calibers, including 44 Mag which runs at much higher pressure than 44-40 Win.
    The 92 Winchester models are extremely strong actions.

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