9mm 147 lead bullet load help

[mrproc1]

Hey Ya’ll....
I have 1k 147gr lead bullets. I have some HP-38 and CFE pistol on hand, Im having a hard time getting some load data on this particular set up.
Im seeing some info on the web using these powders to get the heavy bullet moving, but don’t want to load without any true help.
Anyone have any insight on where to start, or a link to previous post about this

(and if anyone wants them let me know)

 

[OneBadV8]

Looks like you can find it on Hodgdon's site.

For HP-38, they say starting load of 3 grain with a MAX of 3.4 grain.
For CFE, they say starting load of 3.7 grain with a MAX of 4.2

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[mrproc1]

Thank you very much for that link.
(honestly didn’t know that had on their site, very helpful)

 

[Throwsstones]

Check out Stevespages.com he has a lot of load information. Hodgdon’s site only list a load a 147 gr XPT that’s not the same as loading lead or plated.

 

[DadSmith]

It lists 145gr ACME RN starting 3.6gr CFE Pistol. I'm sure 2gr more bullet weight won't make that much of a difference. 4.3gr is maximum load for the 145gr ACME RN. Start low work your way up.

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[VERT]

147 grain lead I used 3.4 grains of HP-38. The old Winchester book listed 3.3 - 3.5. There was a Lee Auto Disc setting that dropped 3.4.

 

[ljk]

3.4gr of Titegroup works wonders on Xtreme plated 147 RN.

I've tried W231(same as HP38 and CFE P) neither one of them at max load could reliably cycle the gun with the can.

 

[schmart]

I've tried the 147/HP-38 combo with disappointing results. If you compare the published velocity of it vs a load with Titegroup loading you will notice it is about 100fps slower. That makes is so wimpy it won't cycle most semi autos and likely wouldn't make power factor in any competition. Sadly I figured that out after I had loaded 1000 of them during winter. I ended up getting a reduced power recoil spring and used them up last summer. I've went back to titegroup with good success. I'm sure others fast powders like bullseye would also work.

HP-38 is awesome with everything else I've loaded and I'm still using it quite a bit. I think the 147 gn bullet simply extends into the case too far and doesn't allow enough room to put enough powder in without causing a pressure spike.

I have no experience with CFE so can't comment on it, other than recommending comparing the published velocity and trying to keep it up at normal ranges. (unless you are shooting a revolver.. then power puff loads can be quite fun).

--Rick

 

[VERT]

Weird. I got 130-135 PF When I loaded 147 grain HiTek coated lead over 3.4 grains HP-38. This was out of a 5” 1911. The gun ran fine with stock springs. I shoot these out of stock Glocks and M&P as well. I would assume plated or FMJ would not make power.

 

[mrproc1]

With all the mixed reviews just might have to wait and the get powder that the load book calls for when the world opens back up.
I really don’t want to load them with powder that won’t cycle or have groups all over the place and become frustrated.

 

[TonyN]

Hogdon has a web site for all the powder they offer. I usually load my powder charge in the middle of the chart.

 

[Gloy]

My go to load for all things 9mm is 147gr. Coated lead, 3.9 gr. Cfe pistol, Winchester primers, col is 1.13 this thru my glock 17 runs 890 fps. Very comfortable to shoot all day. Have never had any failure to cycle properly on any of our 9mm firearms. This load data is on the hodgden website. Try this load I think you will like it.