The news has finally caught on to the heroin problem in Bloomington

[longbow]

For at least year this has been a problem in Bloomington and more than a handful of deaths have been listed as something else from Government and IU pressures.

They tried to tone it down but they can't hide it anymore. I heard a bunch of calls on the scanner today but don't know how many they had today.

Waiting to see how they spin it.

 

[edwea]

I am in Monroe County and heard it was 15 or so, maybe more. In one day. I can't imagine this can go on much longer as addicts will self exterminate. I am not into drug culture, but I wonder how many of these deaths would have been prevented by the addicts purchasing clean legal drugs, not black market's latest mix.

 

[bocefus78]

Msm is reporting it as a new super strong batch of heroin in town as well as some spice OD's. It's been on the news for a few days now.

 

[Dr.Midnight]

Monroe County resident here as well. Bloomington has a drug problem? Someone call the media and tell them the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor too.

 

[KellyinAvon]

The trend seems to be "Shoot up in a public place so the Narcan Squad will find you if you OD." I've seen a couple news stories about cities saying they can't afford this. As a taxpayer I have to ask, "What's not getting paid for in order to revive the junkies?" I kind of like having someone answer the phone when I call 911.

 

[nra4ever]

Sound like narcan is the problem...

 

[hoosierdoc]

Last night I intubated a guy after 6mg of narcan did not significantly arouse him. Usually 0.8mg is enough IV

 

[eldirector]

Sound like narcan is the problem...

You got it. Problem would self-correct if we would let it.

 

[hoosierdoc]

You got it. Problem would self-correct if we would let it.

So would depression

should we make a list of self-destructive addictions we're going to stop treating? Smoking? Drugs? Eating too much? Porn addiction?

show me someone who got themselves off heroin (including methadone/suboxone) and is living clean and you can bet they have more grit than most

i bet these municipalities waste WAY more money on stupid crap than they pay for narcan and EMS runs

 

[longbow]

Monroe County resident here as well. Bloomington has a drug problem? Someone call the media and tell them the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor too.

Locally it's well known. It's just that they can't hide it anymore and many more in Bloomington are getting upset about the drugged up homeless problem.


How much does a standard dose of narcan cost.

 

[1mil-high]

Per a BPD officer that is a close friend most of their ODs as of late have been spice related due to fentanyl being laced in most of it anymore. This is not to say that heroin isn't a huge issue as well, but fentanyl has been seen in almost every street drug and will cause someone to OD at a very small amount of exposure.

 

[EyeCarry]

The trend seems to be "Shoot up in a public place so the Narcan Squad will find you if you OD." I've seen a couple news stories about cities saying they can't afford this. As a taxpayer I have to ask, "What's not getting paid for in order to revive the junkies?" I kind of like having someone answer the phone when I call 911.

The Mrs. and I were having this same conversation. The homeless and addicts are laying all over the church lawn now that they have been "pushed out" of People's Park (and other places). I feel bad for the truly homeless, truly addicted. I am sorry though, we can't save everyone and each of us are ultimately responsible for our own safety and health (part of why we carry, no?). Maybe now that Bloomington is opening their eyes to the extent of the problem some good can be achieved. I don't know how though as the problem of homelessness and addiction has been building for decades and true solutions are so tangled with law, education/lack of, jobs/lack of, cost of living etc. that we are screwed.

 

[hoosierdaddy1976]

So would depression

should we make a list of self-destructive addictions we're going to stop treating? Smoking? Drugs? Eating too much? Porn addiction?

show me someone who got themselves off heroin (including methadone/suboxone) and is living clean and you can bet they have more grit than most

i bet these municipalities waste WAY more money on stupid crap than they pay for narcan and EMS runs

None of the activities you mentioned are in and of themselves illegal. Treating people who have issues with socially acceptable vices make more sense to me.

I do agree that someone who remains long term clean has grit.

 

[308jake]

So would depression

should we make a list of self-destructive addictions we're going to stop treating? Smoking? Drugs? Eating too much? Porn addiction?

show me someone who got themselves off heroin (including methadone/suboxone) and is living clean and you can bet they have more grit than most

i bet these municipalities waste WAY more money on stupid crap than they pay for narcan and EMS runs

A wicked case of carpal tunnel cured me of one vice.

 

[SSGSAD]

Monroe County resident here as well. Bloomington has a drug problem? Someone call the media and tell them the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor too.

And tell them, that "other" gov., use gas, on there own people .....

 

[SSGSAD]

Sound like narcan is the problem...

I heard on the radio, that there is a "new" drug, that narcan,

is NOT effective with ..... anyone have any info ?????

 

[hoosierdoc]

I heard on the radio, that there is a "new" drug, that narcan,

is NOT effective with ..... anyone have any info ?????

it only works on opioids, but carfentanil additive is what you are probably thinking of. Grey death is the drug

 

[hoosierdoc]

None of the activities you mentioned are in and of themselves illegal. Treating people who have issues with socially acceptable vices make more sense to me.

I do agree that someone who remains long term clean has grit.

my point is how do you take someone with a physical and mental addiction, that we classify as a disease and admit that they are addicted, meaning their body and mind craves it now, and tell them "sorry", we're going to let you die now.

a town in OH wants to do a three strikes and you're out policy with narcan. If dispatch determines it's your fourth time they will not send medics.

yet these same conservatives whined about obama's death panels

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

So would depression

should we make a list of self-destructive addictions we're going to stop treating? Smoking? Drugs? Eating too much? Porn addiction?

show me someone who got themselves off heroin (including methadone/suboxone) and is living clean and you can bet they have more grit than most

i bet these municipalities waste WAY more money on stupid crap than they pay for narcan and EMS runs

Many communities spend a ton of money fixing infrastructure that was half-assed or poorly planned by contractors and/or private property owners and then gets pushed off on the town, city, or county. I see it every day.

yet these same conservatives whined about obama's death panels

I was pondering that very same thing while I was driving the other day. A lot of folks seem to sound like they're ready and able to make the hard decision and take the firm stance, but my guess is that not very many of those have the stomach to step over the dead bodies as they stroll on.

 

[churchmouse]

Many communities spend a ton of money fixing infrastructure that was half-assed or poorly planned by contractors and/or private property owners and then gets pushed off on the town, city, or county. I see it every day.




I was pondering that very same thing while I was driving the other day. A lot of folks seem to sound like they're ready and able to make the hard decision and take the firm stance, but my guess is that not very many of those have the stomach to step over the dead bodies as they stroll on.

All very good points but as long as we keep reviving them they will look for a higher high and a lower low because they now have a safety net.

What do we do. This will not fix itself.