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    Le mot juste blue falcon's Avatar

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    If I or my family are badly injured the supplies are definitely for us first. Staying alive is the first cause. Once I am able to either unharmed or fixed up my mind set is to help others.

    Ladies if you have sanitary napkins in your purse get them out we need them... You in the dress shirt take it off now and rip it into strips... NOW!

    Come over here right now and hold down on this wound, come on! put your weight on it! Don't worry about hurting her, she will bleed to death if you don't!

    Mindset. You need to know what to do. You need to take charge.




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    If anyone is really interested in “the oh ***** moment” trauma care, you should consider attending a TECC or TCCC class...

    Since we are talking MCI, familiarizing yourself with START triage criteria can help benefit the largest number of people.
    Good judgment comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgment.

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    Where can ordinary people with zero medical knowledge learn how to help in these kinds of situations? I wouldn't have a clue how to use any of the items you are talking about carrying. Is this something a non-professional can realistically learn?
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    Quote Originally Posted by injb View Post
    Where can ordinary people with zero medical knowledge learn how to help in these kinds of situations? I wouldn't have a clue how to use any of the items you are talking about carrying. Is this something a non-professional can realistically learn?
    If you watch the tactics and training forum, you'll see med courses offered. Several good sources here in Indiana. You might start with a CPR course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CampingJosh View Post
    If somebody has arterial bleeding in a mass casualty situation, I'm helping somebody else. Just not going to go where I can't help.

    And gloves? Gloves are for me. If I don't get a chance to change them between working with different victims, oh well. Better for the victim to risk hepatitis and live than to bleed out because nobody helped.
    Agreed. I carry several pair in my kits, but am not overly interested in protecting the victims from each other.

    And per an article I read a little while back, ditch the black nitrile gloves. You always want blue(ish) or white. Part of the evaluation is to take note of what kind of blood you are dealing with. Is it dark red? (slow veinous) Bright red? (fast arterial) Cant tell with black gloves if you are trying to see what the color is after an evaluation sweep that results in blood on your hands from a hidden spot on the body. I switched out some of mine to the thicker black ones for more durability and didnt even think about that.
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    also, where do we sign up to touch Frank's equipment?

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    I get that. My limited training is contingent on knowing that the major arteries are located on the inside of arms and legs. If it is gushing - tourniquit, if it is merely flowing - pressure.




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    Tier 1, on my person:
    I carry a SWAT-T tourniquet (Gift from a fellow INGOer ) in my pocket at all times.Also a pair of nitrile gloves.
    The SWAT-T is very compact (vacuum sealed) and can be used both at a pressure dressing or as a tourniquet.

    With the cold weather I usually wear a shemagh as a scarf, which is basically a big triangular bandage.

    Tier 2, in my EDC bag:

    Close to me MOST of the time.Either in the car or on my back if I need to be away from the car for a while.

    A compact trauma kit with another SWAT-T, gauze, tape, shears, mask, gloves etc.
    Head lamp treat someone hand-free at night.
    A small first aid kit for minor wounds with more gauze, and a space blanket to treat for shock.

    Shears are good to make more bandages and dressings using victim's clothes in a mass casualty situation.

    Tier3, in the car:

    Largest first aid kit with anything from bandaids to tourniquet and pressure dressings.
    Several blankets to keep people warm.

    I'm looking to add more stuff to the car kit like CAT tourniquets and israeli bandages and whatnot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue falcon View Post
    If I or my family are badly injured the supplies are definitely for us first. Staying alive is the first cause. Once I am able to either unharmed or fixed up my mind set is to help others.

    Ladies if you have sanitary napkins in your purse get them out we need them... You in the dress shirt take it off now and rip it into strips... NOW!

    Come over here right now and hold down on this wound, come on! put your weight on it! Don't worry about hurting her, she will bleed to death if you don't!

    Mindset. You need to know what to do. You need to take charge.
    If you don't know who's in charge, you are.

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    I have both CATs and SOF Ts and Feel that about the SOF Ts are superior in design and ease of use. I am going to get a SWAT T to see how it works, it looks like it is a big rubber band. It may be good for an arm wound but i am not sure if it would work on a leg.

    Someone with more experience is welcome to make corrections.




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    Quote Originally Posted by blue falcon View Post
    I have both CATs and SOF Ts and Feel that about the SOF Ts are superior in design and ease of use. I am going to get a SWAT T to see how it works, it looks like it is a big rubber band. It may be good for an arm wound but i am not sure if it would work on a leg.

    Someone with more experience is welcome to make corrections.
    I played with a SWAT once. I think it was in Cavmedic's class. Didnt like it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Freeman View Post
    A confused cop is an arresty cop.
    Quote Originally Posted by hoosierdoc View Post
    also, where do we sign up to touch Frank's equipment?

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