Automated car kills pedestrian in Arizona

[K_W]

Self-driving Uber car, in autonomous mode with a driver behind the wheel, killed a woman who was apparently jaywalking in Arizona.

https://www.abc15.com/news/region-southeast-valley/tempe/tempe-police-investigating-self-driving-uber-car-involved-in-crash-overnight

 

[JettaKnight]

Better link:
https://www.abc15.com/news/region-s...-driving-uber-car-involved-in-crash-overnight

Currently, judgement withheld. Humans hit other humans, so...

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Automation is only as good as its programmers and sensors.

 

[K_W]

Link fixed.

 

[snorko]

All new transportation technologies have problems early on. The death rate per mile driven used to be far greater before seatbelts, airbags, etc. Airplane crashes were more commonplace in the 1950s and 1960s. The elevator still holds the record for safest form of transport with only one recorded death from a broken cable/plunging elevator car. And plenty of pedestrians are struck and killed by regular cars.

Autonomous vehicles are going to happen and soon. Clearly the Interstate is the ideal place to start. Commercial OTR trucking is about to get hit with a huge driver shortage, this will help that. I personally would love to be able to get onto I-69 and put on the autopilot to drive up to Indy

 

[Spear Dane]

Why is there 'about to be' a huge driver shortage? There's never enough anyway.

 

[snorko]

Why is there 'about to be' a huge driver shortage? There's never enough anyway.

New electronic log record keeping is limiting existing drivers time to the legal limits, very few new drivers coming in and an aging current pool of drivers.

 

[HoughMade]

People walk out in front of cars all the time. Car? Driver? Pedestrian? Who knows.

 

[Dead Duck]

Ya but wait until a hacker hitman programs a driverless to kill his designated target. Let that sink in.....









So...
An autonomous car hit and kills a pedestrian.

OR...
Jaywalking is punishable by death.

I say let these robocars at it. I will guarantee you a reduction in jaywalking nation wide.
An incentive to stay in the designated crosswalk..... finally. And after this catches on, we will see prosecutors that actually prosecute and Judges keeping dirtbags behind bars. Not only punishing people but more importantly A DETERRENT for future criminals NOT to do a crime. Something we haven't seen since hanging horse thieves on sight. Throw in removing Gun Free Zones and promoting Open Carry for everyone as well.

And then - I will guarantee you a reduction in crime nation wide.

This is only the beginning but no -
They are going to fix this stupid car toboggle and blow my whole dream to hell.

 

[K_W]

People walk out in front of cars all the time. Car? Driver? Pedestrian? Who knows.

If, as was reported, she was at fault for jaywalking and the accident was unavoidable, some greasy pocket government critter is still going to find a way to blame the automated technology... That means that my dream of getting in my car, leaning the seat back, closing my eyes, and waking up at sunrise on the beach the next morning is that much further away.

 

[MCgrease08]

Automation is only as good as its programmers and sensors.

And only as good as the morons that jump out in front of the vehicle.

 

[Jludo]

I can see a scenario where, no matter how good the tech or the human driver, if someone steps into the road from in front of a parallel parked truck they will get hit.

 

[HoughMade]

If anyone is interested in driverless cars, this interview with the Waymo CEO is pretty interesting...and funny.

Waymo?s John Krafcik on Self-Driving Cars, Live from SXSW

Waymo is kind of a competitor to the Uber driverless car with the current goal of setting up an Uber like driverless netowork, and eventually selling the units to the public.

 

[Thor]

As Professor John Frink so wisely noted: "Elementary chaos theory tells us that all robots will eventually turn against their masters and run amok in an orgy of blood and the kicking and the biting with metal teeth and the hurting and shoving."

 

[Route 45]

Not exactly "self-driving," but I have a 2017 Ford Escape Titanium with a lot of the same kind of technology as is used in self-driving applications. I bought it brand new in December 2017. It currently has about 5000 miles on it. So far:

The backup camera doesn't always work when I first back out of the garage for the day. It inexplicably works fine after I park it somewhere and restart the car.
The sensors sometimes tell me that blind spot/cross traffic alerts are not available because a trailer is attached. I have never attached a trailer to this car.
While driving in moderate snowfall, the front radar sensor gets covered with snow/ice and this disables the adaptive cruise control.
Sometimes the lane-keep assist works, sometimes it doesn't.
The forward collision alert likes to go off if I'm driving along and someone isn't getting out of the way quickly enough for the system, making it think that I'm going to hit something.
The self-parking feature sucks. I can do a better job myself. If someone can't park a Ford Escape, they need to stick to bicycles.

Except for these issues, all sensor-related, I love the little thing. I'd love it even more if it didn't have all of this crap on it, but I got it at a very good end-of-year price with excellent incentives.
I wish I could just keep the backup camera and blind spot monitor, and ditch the forward collision/lane keep/self parking/adaptive cruise BS.

Speaking of the blind spot monitor, I am turning in my leased 2015 Ford Edge next month, and the ONLY thing to ever go wrong on that vehicle was the blind spot monitor. If not for the warranty, that would have been $800+.

My next vehicle won't have this crap on it.

 

[printcraft]

Ya but wait until a hacker hitman programs a driverless to kill his designated target. Let that sink in.....

https://www.mintpressnews.com/micha...als-agencys-covert-carjacking-ability/225738/

 

[Thor]

And only as good as the morons that jump out in front of the vehicle.

Hey now, no falling back on the laws of physics when a good technogeek or political agenda is involved! Just like the O advisors said to the auto industry...we're here to change laws that get in the way!

 

[Thor]

My next vehicle won't have this crap on it.

So...you'll be buying old/used...My 79 CJ7 doesn't have any of that crap on it. Anything built after about 2000 is cursed with the electric phantoms. It's why the new stuff will never become hot rods...no one will be able to fix or bypass the computer collars.

 

[Dead Duck]

As Professor John Frink so wisely noted: "Elementary chaos theory tells us that all robots will eventually turn against their masters and run amok in an orgy of blood and the kicking and the biting with metal teeth and the hurting and shoving."

Are we sure he wasn't talking about women because that's already happening?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

And only as good as the morons that jump out in front of the vehicle.

Engineer ought the last moronand they always seem to make a better moron.