Littoral Combat Ship LCS-17 to be chrstened USS Indianapolis

[Thor]

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-R...-combat-ship-indianapolis/source/GovDelivery/

The Navy will christen its newest Freedom-variant littoral combat ship, USS Indianapolis (LCS 17), during a 10:00 a.m. CDT ceremony Saturday, April 14, in Marinette, Wisconsin.

 

[Thor]

Two survivors of the CA 35 crew, Richard Thelen and Art Leenerman, are scheduled to attend the christening ceremony on behalf of their shipmates.

 

[miguel]

SWEET!

 

[Mr Evilwrench]

 

[KellyinAvon]

 

[actaeon277]

I'd rather it wasn't a piece of crap LCS.

 

[Birds Away]

I'd rather it wasn't a piece of crap LCS.

Yeah, me too.

 

[halfmileharry]

OK you mop pushers.... What would you rather it be?
I know nothing about them big fishing tubs.

 

[Birds Away]

OK you mop pushers.... What would you rather it be?
I know nothing about them big fishing tubs.

Given the way the naming conventions have changed there isn't a good option. I would rather they would have just passed on Indy and named it after another city. Those ships (both variations) serve no purpose and fulfill no mission. They are really bad at everything.

 

[halfmileharry]

Given the way the naming conventions have changed there isn't a good option. I would rather they would have just passed on Indy and named it after another city. Those ships (both variations) serve no purpose and fulfill no mission. They are really bad at everything.

Is this line of ships just a political compromise then?

 

[Birds Away]

Is this line of ships just a political compromise then?

Throwing a bone to the shipbuilding industry from the elected officials they own.

 

[halfmileharry]

Throwing a bone to the shipbuilding industry from the elected officials they own.

They do float don't they?
What do they actually do for the Navy?

 

[Birds Away]

They do float don't they?
What do they actually do for the Navy?

So far, although propelling themselves through the water has, so far, been quite a challenge for them.

Nothing. They were built to fight in littoral waters but they lack the ability to defend themselves in that arena. They also lack the offensive weapons to do much of anything there. They are supposed to be developing pre-made modules for different missions that can be quickly loaded and unloaded. The mission modules would be minesweeping, inshore ASW, SEAL delivery and support, etc. AFAIK none of these modules has been completed and now they are talking of using them as blue water frigates. They are totally inadequate for that mission.

 

[Birds Away]

The Navy needs a good "low mix" frigate. It needs to be about the size of the old Perry class, give or take a little. It should have one 5 inch gun, a good hull mounted sonar, a VLS, a couple missile fire control radars, a 2d air search radar, 4x4 Harpoon launchers, facilities for a helo detachment, a tail and a couple of CIWS. They need to be able to integrate into the carrier groups and also be able to operate independently and still be able to defend themselves in a moderate threat environment. They need to forget about minimum manning and build about 50 of these.

 

[actaeon277]

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...ewest-white-elephant.html?399977=#post6223336

Well, here's a discussion we've had on the LCS.

Basically, a committee decided with a sound concept.
The Navy needed a low cost ship, that they could build a LOT of, and it would operate near shore.
But, then they decided to add option after option, mission capability after mission capability.
So, it costs a LOT.

Then, they wanted to cut down on the number of personal to operate/fix it.
After all, Navy ships are crowded.
Of course, there's a reason for that crowding, and the reasons haven't gone away.
People need to operate all those sensors and weapons, keep the boat running, fix stuff.
The Navy decided when something broke, they'd just pull into port, let the base fix it. They could cut down on maintenance.
Except, ships ALWAYS break. The more complex, the more it breaks.
So this ship is always having to leave formation to get worked on.
How to you operate a combat group, if the ships have to keep leaving.

Also, the crew they do have is being swamped. Ships crews are ALWAYS tired and overworked at sea.
Now, it's WORSE.

Then there's the matter of failures of the main engines. Usually one of the most "bullet proof" parts of a ship.
At first, they were blaming the Navy. The builder said the Navy didn't know how to maintain the engines.
Right. The Navy has been maintaining pretty complex ships over the course of over 200 years, and now they're getting stupid, on just ONE CLASS of ship.

 

[mkgr22]

The latest word on the LCS fleet- none deployed in 2018...

Little Crappy Ship: None Of The Navy's Littoral Combat Ships May Deploy In 2018 - The Drive

 

[actaeon277]

You should hear some of the statements made by sailors that have been stationed on them.

 

[Woobie]

So this USS Indy is destined to be as disastrous as its namesake. Sweet

 

[actaeon277]

So this USS Indy is destined to be as disastrous as its namesake. Sweet

It's namesake died in combat.
At least better than sinking itself.

 

[Woobie]

It's namesake died in combat.
At least better than sinking itself.

True. Honorable death for the first. Ignominious birth for the second.