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    Job woes

    Just shy of my 23rd anniversary, my company "rebadged" my position to an outside vendor. What does this mean? Well, I'm doing the same thing with the same people every day, but the new company is infamous for keeping insourced employees around long enough to absorb their knowledge and replace them with overseas or H-1B employees. So the writing is on the wall, and I'm looking at this as sort of a long term severance package until I'm officially let go. (As an aside, I have a little bit of schadenfreude about the whole situation, because the lion's share of my job is supporting customers on equipment and solutions I have two decades of hands-on experience with. They're crotchety enough now, it's going to be funny when they realize they're talking to someone who's never touched the product and is reading off of a cheat sheet.)

    I've been networking a little bit using personal contacts and LinkedIn and have applied for quite a few jobs, but I just can't seem to get any traction. I've only got one official rejection, but everything else has been automated responses to the effect of "don't call us, we'll call you." As someone who hasn't had to job hop in a while, it's pretty disconcerting. Whatever happened to personal contact and actual interviews? Have they gone the way of the dodo?

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    I can't offer any real help but wish you the best of luck in landing on your feet.
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    Yup. Unless you are a trades person and know the field you are dealing with the electronic wall. Even some of the service related company's are using on line non-personal testing to weed out the idiots.
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    Is there a chance you can survive and thrive under the new regime? Are you anywhere near retirement? If so, you can play the new game, embrace the change, and leave on your timetable. Are new key players being brought in that you can get to realize your value to the organization? Late in my career a new guy was brought in that I reported to. He milked me for knowledge and I was glad to help him as it helped me to be in his good graces. Bottom line, through much turmoil I left when it suited me. Pushing 60 I didn't want to try and find a new employer. Not sure if this is your situation or not.

    On another tack, does your employer have competitors who may be interested in your skills? Best of luck whichever way you go.

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    It's a crying shame that they are outsourcing your position. I have to deal with an outsourced service in India. Nice people but they. Are clueless compared to folks I dealt with here in the U.S.
    your only 23 so you have your whole life ahead of you.
    Cheer up and stay positive as something good will come of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by churchmouse View Post
    Yup. Unless you are a trades person and know the field you are dealing with the electronic wall. Even some of the service related company's are using on line non-personal testing to weed out the idiots.
    The pre-employment testing can be a joke. We started it several years ago. The new hires we were getting seemed to have a higher first year failure rate. Then when we had a few guys from other companies that were excellent drivers, they failed the tests.

    The higher ups figured something was up. They gave the test to some of our best drivers. They failed. We canned the testing after that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by COOPADUP View Post
    It's a crying shame that they are outsourcing your position. I have to deal with an outsourced service in India. Nice people but they. Are clueless compared to folks I dealt with here in the U.S.
    your only 23 so you have your whole life ahead of you.
    Cheer up and stay positive as something good will come of this.

    Read closer, he has 23 years with that company.

    As to networking, these days everything is done on computer, so Linkedin is a good source. Doing things on computer is the company way of not having to tell you to your face that you aren't what they are looking for, but they don't realize that face to face is so different and a true interview can find that diamond in the rough that they can't see via email.

    Best of luck. Really sad how some employers don't value knowledge and dedication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spec4 View Post
    Is there a chance you can survive and thrive under the new regime? Are you anywhere near retirement? If so, you can play the new game, embrace the change, and leave on your timetable. Are new key players being brought in that you can get to realize your value to the organization? Late in my career a new guy was brought in that I reported to. He milked me for knowledge and I was glad to help him as it helped me to be in his good graces. Bottom line, through much turmoil I left when it suited me. Pushing 60 I didn't want to try and find a new employer. Not sure if this is your situation or not.

    On another tack, does your employer have competitors who may be interested in your skills? Best of luck whichever way you go.
    I started when I was 18, I'm only 41. I've got another 30 years or so in the workforce unless a movie deal for one of my books pops up.

    As far as competitors, that's one of the few leads that looks sort of promising. There's a potential opening in my area with a competitor, but it's dependent on some other things coming to pass on their end first to create that opening. Fingers crossed there.

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    Read closer, he has 23 years with that company.
    Quote Originally Posted by indykid View Post

    As to networking, these days everything is done on computer, so Linkedin is a good source. Doing things on computer is the company way of not having to tell you to your face that you aren't what they are looking for, but they don't realize that face to face is so different and a true interview can find that diamond in the rough that they can't see via email.

    Best of luck. Really sad how some employers don't value knowledge and dedication.


    Yeah, that's the one thing that kinda caught me off guard. I updated my resume the way I had it 20+ years ago - keep it short and simple, enough to fit on one page, get your foot in the door and demonstrate your knowledge. Some friends of mine in HR told me that they actually use keywords scanners to filter out applications, so if it's not mentioned on your resume, you might not even get eyes on it. So I went back in and added another page of skills and experience on top the more general work history and education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTScribe View Post
    I started when I was 18, I'm only 41. I've got another 30 years or so in the workforce unless a movie deal for one of my books pops up.

    As far as competitors, that's one of the few leads that looks sort of promising. There's a potential opening in my area with a competitor, but it's dependent on some other things coming to pass on their end first to create that opening. Fingers crossed there.



    Yeah, that's the one thing that kinda caught me off guard. I updated my resume the way I had it 20+ years ago - keep it short and simple, enough to fit on one page, get your foot in the door and demonstrate your knowledge. Some friends of mine in HR told me that they actually use keywords scanners to filter out applications, so if it's not mentioned on your resume, you might not even get eyes on it. So I went back in and added another page of skills and experience on top the more general work history and education.
    This is true. I submitted several resume's to my current employer. The final version would've looked ridiculous if an actual human had read it. It was almost all "key words". It worked though. Got not one, but two offers (took the better one) from the same employer, was hired without so much as a single interview. They just called and said when and where to report.

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    Im sorry to hear that for you JT. I wish you the best outcome.
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