Navy to go retro with its destroyers

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    Mr Evilwrench

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    Sometimes you just need a volume control you can grab and twist, rather than having to go down the menu rabbit hole to find a slider that may or may not leave the volume where you wanted it when you take your finger off. When it's really important, if you have a row of switches, don't make them all the same. It may look like you've piled it together from random junk, but you can tell which switch is which by "braille" without taking your eyes off the road. Human factors is a whole branch of engineering, and it doesn't always get the consideration it deserves.
     

    actaeon277

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    Touch screens are "cheaper".

    But....
    when it goes, ALL your controls are gone.
    And screens are not quite as damage resistant.
    At work, in the mill, I like them, in places.
    But some people get the idea they are great EVERYWHERE. Then find out that they don't do well in some places and we lose production.
     

    HKFaninCarmel

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    It makes sense. The Navy does a **** poor job teaching sailors how to maintain equipment now and this stuff is complicated. The new stuff requires more upkeep and money.

    Old school controls work and they work well. It's what is keeping the nuclear fleet reliable and it also offers a cyber level of protection.

    Good to see!
     

    actaeon277

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    About the LCS. Of course, now I can't find the article.
    But, people were expected to have no "specialties".
    There were no engineering people, and no one to repair things.
    The survivability rating was the lowest issued to any ship in the fleet.
    Any hits, and they were expected to use lifejackets to wait for someone from a more "survivable" ship to rescue them.

    The concept was, shall we say, flawed.
     

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    This pretty much says all I need to know about the LCS project.

    A 2012 report by Rear Admiral Samuel Perez, USN, found that the ships lacked the manpower and firepower to complete the missions required by regional combatant commanders. The report found that the LCS is "ill-suited for combat operations against anything but" small, fast boats not armed with anti-ship missiles. It also found that the excessive beam (width) of the trimaran Independence class ships may pose a "navigational challenge in narrow waterways and tight harbors".[SUP][126][/SUP] The report also found that the contractor-based maintenance scheme for the ships had led to poorly supervised and unaccountable contractors leaving problems unresolved. As contract workers are required to be American, they must be flown out to any foreign ports visited by an LCS.[SUP][127][/SUP] A special panel was appointed to investigate "challenges identified".[SUP][128][/SUP] Twenty more bunks were installed to allow for a larger crew.[SUP][129][/SUP]
    In 2013, Captain Kenneth Coleman, the U.S. Navy's requirements officer for the program, identified the LCS as being especially vulnerable to tactical aircraft armed with standoff anti-ship missiles.
     

    actaeon277

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    Imagine trying to run a fleet of 7 ships. 2 of the ships are LCSs. They don't have a crew that fixes things. They keep having to go back to port.
    So, you really don't have a fleet of 7.
    Then, you can't send the LCS out by itself. Cause it keeps breaking, and they can't fix it. So it needs escorts.
     

    HKFaninCarmel

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    Don't forget about the new multi-billion dollar carriers that can't launch a plane... Navy has been a mess for years. I remember doing INSURV's on ships where the sailors couldn't fix a damn thing, but man were they trained on EO, Alcohol, drugs, and exercised...
     
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