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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolBob View Post
    Greer wasn't a muslim in any of the Clancy novels.
    None of it follows the novels. Its just an action/espionage story and the "Jack Ryan" name is to draw people in. Its entertaining but not Clancy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamil View Post
    I havenít read a Jack Ryan book in several years but I donít recall his religion being revealed at all. as the story unfolded it was not really important to the plot. So some of the reasoning may have been to virtue signal. There are reasons to include it in the streaming series other that that though. I donít see why Muslims canít be fans of the series too. So I can see why producers might give them a character to identify with.
    It just added a "dramatic, WOKE point to the storylines. Note that Greer was NOT a field agent in the novels either and did NOT have a field agent past. He was a Navy admiral who served in a senior CIA billet as did Stanfield Turner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KLB View Post
    I thought Ford made a good Ryan.
    Meh, Alec Baldwin will always be Jack Ryan to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaScout View Post
    Okay, I'll ask. Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    It just added a "dramatic, WOKE point to the storylines. Note that Greer was NOT a field agent in the novels either and did NOT have a field agent past. He was a Navy admiral who served in a senior CIA billet as did Stanfield Turner.
    I'm glad someone gets it. I'm surprised people aren't complaining that the Soviets aren't the bad guys.
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    Iíve read almost every Tom Clancy novel. Even read a bunch of the novels he put his name in but were written by others. I think this series and the Chris Pine movie convey the feel of the Jack Ryan universe. Sorry some people hate everythjng. I canít change that. But I will watch this again because it was entertaining

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpo View Post
    Harrison Ford
    Alec Baldwin
    Chris Pine
    Ben Affleck

    The only person who hasn't played him is Jeff Bridges as Big Lebowski Ryan.
    Out of those 4, Chris Pine is probably the best actor, but Iím not sure he played the best Jack Ryan. I think thatís Harrison Ford as well, even though as an actor, generally heís mediocre. Maybe itís that the script played his strengths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    None of it follows the novels. Its just an action/espionage story and the "Jack Ryan" name is to draw people in. Its entertaining but not Clancy.
    This sums it up.

    The names are the same, but the story has changed. Great lower budget action show. I never really got the whole "woke" feel about it, like a lot of the crap that Hollywood puts out. Bring on season 3.

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    Havenít seen the series, but Ford did Jack Ryanís ďreluctant actionĒ extremely well.

    Seeing the promo of him with the rifle out a helicopter bugs me knowing how canon says Ryan is terrified of helicopters.

    I always wanted a Red Storm Rising movie (or mini-series!), but itíd be updated to 2020 and totally suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJQ6945 View Post
    This sums it up.

    The names are the same, but the story has changed. Great lower budget action show. I never really got the whole "woke" feel about it, like a lot of the crap that Hollywood puts out. Bring on season 3.
    Neither did I. They simply updated the story. The bad guys are Islamists, instead of Soviets. Ryan speaks Arabic instead of Russian. I imagine Greer was made to be Muslim, as to not paint all Muslims as bad guys, to avoid a backlash. I think the show is pretty dang good. Well written, lots of action, and the production seems to give a nod to real tactics.

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