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    Quote Originally Posted by ATOMonkey View Post
    I could get on board with that! It tell you what, if the Kia Stinger GT came with a manual transmission I'd be riding in one right now.
    The company that tuned my old forte just tuned a gt stinger to 408/453tq with an intake, catback and tune in the stock 3.3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eldirector View Post
    0-60 MPH under 5 seconds. Seating for 2 adults, one child, and a 150# dog. Heated leather seats.
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    I'll stick with my original "sporty as hell, and a blast to drive. Something even my wife will look forward to a trip in."

    Edit: also back to my OP: I'd REALLY like a Lotus Exige or Evora. If i could cram my kid into a 2+2, I'd do it. But, I'm saving that one for later, when my wife and I can start travelling with just the two of us again. So, THAT is the measure of fun, performance, and comfort. It isn't the fastest, or the best handling, or the most luxurious. BUT... it is a freaking adult go-cart, with leather seats. All for under $25,000 used and low mileage.
    Been a BMW owner since 2010 and have loved every minute of it. Just sold my 2006 330i and bought my dream car, 2008 M3 sedan 6 speed V8. 2008-2013 M3 series are the ONLY M series with a V8 and one hell of a V8 it is. Designed after their F1 engines, the S65 sounds like an F1 on the street. Redlines at 8,400 RPM 414hp and 298 ft-lbs of torque. I love 4 doors, manual transmission, and a V8...what is there not to love. Affordable 4d V8's with a manual transmission are hard to find. Just took it out to the road course today for the first time. Tons of fun. I do my own work on my BMW's so I spend pennies on the dollar compared to a shop. So these cars are not really very expensive to me. They are not really difficult to work on.

    The video doesn't do it justice but that sound is still intoxicating. Soooo much fun.





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    The OP of this thread voiced some of my recent thoughts and interests and Iíve found the subsequent posts both informative and interesting. The last ďfun carĒ I had was a 2011 Camaro SS. I sold it because my wife said she didnít care for the car because if we were going to have a fun car it needed to be a convertible. So. . . . . . Iíve been looking at Camaros,Mustangs, Toyotaís, Mercedes, Audiís, and BMWs. From the comments on this thread it would appear I need to rule out the European makes based on repair issues.

    As with the OPís comments, this would be a weekend driver at most for me and was hoping to keep the cost below $25K - or less. Iíve done the classic car thing several times and I now want something with a modern suspension, air conditioning, fuel injection, cruise and power steering,and disc power brakes, etc. Narrowing it down to American made ( yeah, I know, many are made in Mexico ) any suggestions. OBTW, reasonable resale value would be a plus too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATOMonkey View Post
    lol... In my youth, I didn't mind working on cars every weekend or carrying tools in the trunk to fix it when it stopped working, hell, I didn't have anything better to do.

    Things are a little different now.

    I hear ya! I don't mind working on cars but I don't want to HAVE to work on it to get to work in the morning. Those days are long gone thankfully.
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    Like Denny Iím a big fan of BMW I have owned several and think the engineering is brilliant!
    If your not willing to get dirty and repair them yourself itís a hard pass!

    Mustangs are probably the best bang for the buck available especially the convertibles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amboy49 View Post
    The OP of this thread voiced some of my recent thoughts and interests and Iíve found the subsequent posts both informative and interesting. The last ďfun carĒ I had was a 2011 Camaro SS. I sold it because my wife said she didnít care for the car because if we were going to have a fun car it needed to be a convertible. So. . . . . . Iíve been looking at Camaros,Mustangs, Toyotaís, Mercedes, Audiís, and BMWs. From the comments on this thread it would appear I need to rule out the European makes based on repair issues.

    As with the OPís comments, this would be a weekend driver at most for me and was hoping to keep the cost below $25K - or less. Iíve done the classic car thing several times and I now want something with a modern suspension, air conditioning, fuel injection, cruise and power steering,and disc power brakes, etc. Narrowing it down to American made ( yeah, I know, many are made in Mexico ) any suggestions. OBTW, reasonable resale value would be a plus too.
    Wait for the weather to warm up a little or go somewhere that it is and rent a mustang convertible and a camaro convertible. We've done this on our trips to Key West and the camaro got a resounding thumbs down for many reasons. The biggest being that you lose most of your trunk space with the top down. You also sit very low in the car and it has poor visibility with the top up.
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    I have this 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP that I would like to sell...

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    I have not posted it for sale, but we only drive it a couple thousand a year now.

    It is as much fun you can have with your clothes on! :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by femurphy77 View Post
    Well in my case it started with vacuum leaks on the throttle body due to age of the seal between the throttle body and manifold. Acceptable. Then a water pump. Acceptable. Then an intake valley pan at the apparently prescribed 100-125k mark. Not quite as acceptable. Then the drivers side window regulator. Acceptable. A few weeks later the passenger side window regulator. Not as acceptable. 2 weeks later the rear window regulators. Really?????. Trans (automatic) started slipping slightly, "oh they ALL do that around 130K due to a cheap seal design". Not acceptable. Timing chains starting to slap around 140k. GONE.

    Oh yeah, forgot about the sunroof that opened on its own during a storm on a road trip to Michigan. It then promptly jumped track and jammed. Not acceptable. Oh and the wiring harness going into the trunklid finally coming apart due to opening and closing the trunk. The drivers seat that wouldn't move fore and aft due to a weak motor. (easy fix but frustration level nearing max). Then there's the windshield replacement that required dealer involvement because safelite screwed up the windshield wipers.

    Several other small things going on the fritz and yes it is a used car and yes I do expect things to come up occasionally but this car seemed to know when I had completed one repair just in time for the next failure. I have owned a LOT of used cars in my life and if I added up all of the failures of various cars I've owned thru the years the list would be shorter than it was for the 18 months I owned a BMW. As I said, I'd LOVE to have another but fortunately I've been strong enough not to step into that **** storm again.

    Oh and EVERYTHING costs twice to 10 times as much on a BMW compared to a Chevy or Ford. Excellent engineered car but I don't seem them as viable as a long term owner unless you have full factory warranty for the duration of ownership.




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    Quote Originally Posted by eldirector View Post
    0-60 MPH under 5 seconds. Seating for 2 adults, one child, and a 150# dog. Heated leather seats.

    I'll stick with my original "sporty as hell, and a blast to drive. Something even my wife will look forward to a trip in."

    Edit: also back to my OP: I'd REALLY like a Lotus Exige or Evora. If i could cram my kid into a 2+2, I'd do it. But, I'm saving that one for later, when my wife and I can start travelling with just the two of us again. So, THAT is the measure of fun, performance, and comfort. It isn't the fastest, or the best handling, or the most luxurious. BUT... it is a freaking adult go-cart, with leather seats. All for under $25,000 used and low mileage.
    Wanting one under 5 secs really limits your choices.

    The Golf R would qualify IF you can get over the plain looks. I often describe it as my go-cart. I know my 2016 sold for about $24K.

    Another option would be a Taurus SHO.

    If you want to go above 5 secs, that opens up a lot more options. You get the Lexus IS350, the Infiniti G37/Q50, and the Acura TLX SH-AWD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny347 View Post

    Very nice. If I am lucky enough to go this direction, that's exactly the experience I'm shooting for.

    I don't mind working on my own vehicles one bit. Especially maintenance items. Repairs and upgrades are totally in my wheelhouse as well. I am lucky enough that my OWN car does not have to be dead-nuts reliable. Hell, I own and drive Jeeps. The only vehicle I know of where ping and pinion is considered a "maintenance item" and the only working dashboard light says "Check Engine" (I did. Still running. Good enough for today.).

    I've kicked around ton of options over the last several months. Some pay homage to my late uncle's "fun cars" (His Audi Quattro or Buick Grand National), or to let my wife relive a bit of her own childhood (her dad daily-drove a 1971 454/4-speed Corvette). These would all be a ton of fun, but are getting really pricey and would end up being a fair weather car. I want a daily, and something I am not afraid to drive cross-country on a lark, without care of the weather. Just like any other DD.

    While fantasizing on the above, I started to notice just how quickly some really nice cars depreciate. My current "dream car" is the Lotus. They are $75K new (hell of a bargain, IMHO), and a REALLY nice low-mileage 2000-and-something model is $25K or less now. If I were at a slightly different place in life right now, there would be an Exige in the garage. But, BMWs, Mercedes, Audis, and a whole host of other sporty luxury cars ALSO depreciate like mad over 10 years. Some of them still look fantastic. Some still compete really well on performance specs.

    Soo... Dunno.

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