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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Time View Post
    I think sometimes he isnt trying to strong arm them but instead give them a way out or even willing to take the heat himself just to get the right thing done.
    I truly believe he is the first REAL leader we have had in that office in decades.
    I agree. The problem with federal troops being used is they will need the governor to approve correct?

    I know we have cases in the past(Alabama ) where the governor was not involved though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Time View Post
    I think sometimes he isnt trying to strong arm them but instead give them a way out or even willing to take the heat himself just to get the right thing done.
    I truly believe he is the first REAL leader we have had in that office in decades.
    They all hate his guts so much they’d probably rather watch Minneapolis burn to the ground than “capitulate”.

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    If a foreign country did this, nukes would be flying...

    Do not interrupt your enemy while they are making a mistake.

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    Police chief said that many rioters are from out of state.
    .this is looking more and more like organized, calculated, armed insurrection/terrorism than just a pop up riot.
    These black groups have very violent tendencies and plans. They are organized. I really hope after the military starts killing some of these criminals and this stops, the fbi hunts down the paid organizers of this riot in whatever group they belonged to.
    Get phone and email records or whatever and send these terrorists away for life
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed View Post
    So if one stands his ground to protect his loved ones, his property, and his self from rioters and pillagers after law enforcement has pulled out, one should be labeled a hostile enemy combatant, subject to arrest, and placed in military custody?

    It's a sincere question. I am trying to check my thinking.
    To quote INGO's own Guy Relford, "You can't shoot someone for taking your stuff." Loved ones, self, total strangers, who are in risk of serious bodily injury or to prevent a forcible felony? Reasonable force (including deadly force) is authorized.

    Now when I see "enemy combatant" and "military custody" in reference to what we see now? I have serious concerns. Full-disclosure: over 21 years active duty military and when I hear "military custody" here in the CONUS? Yeah I get concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombs View Post
    If a foreign country did this, nukes would be flying...

    So you think our response would have changed that much since 9/11? I hope not... Who wants a future that includes the consequences of global thermonuclear warfare?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokingman View Post
    I agree. The problem with federal troops being used is they will need the governor to approve correct?

    I know we have cases in the past(Alabama ) where the governor was not involved though.
    Well ideally i think the governor needs to declare a state of emergency and that allows the president to declare a federal emergency and activate federal resources.
    However. I believe during insurrection the president has complete constitutional authority to deploy federal troops. I would reference what then President George Washington did to squash the whiskey rebellion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Time View Post
    Police chief said that many rioters are from out of state.
    .this is looking more and more like organized, calculated, armed insurrection/terrorism than just a pop up riot.
    These black groups have very violent tendencies and plans. They are organized. I really hope after the military starts killing some of these criminals and this stops, the fbi hunts down the paid organizers of this riot in whatever group they belonged to.
    Get phone and email records or whatever and send these terrorists away for life
    Soros was bussing people in for the Ferguson riots, I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing is happening here. Leftists want this country to burn.
    Do not interrupt your enemy while they are making a mistake.

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    Media is clearly owned or paid off by these terrorists.
    Do not interrupt your enemy while they are making a mistake.

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    Mickey Mantle Trigger Time's Avatar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southbendfamily View Post
    declare martial law, that will certainly tamp this down. an armed federal response, shooting unarmed civilians, that is going to win this "culture war".
    You dont have to have a gun in your hand to be treated as an enemy combatant and legally shot.
    We are past that.
    A city is burning and these arent just the dumb asses that started this. Now they are receiving outsode help and instruction on what to target and how to inflict the quickest and most damage to the infrastructure. This has moved into acts of terrorism and the president now has a green light to deploy the military.

    This is **** i know a lot about and they better get this under control now. We are past just afew thousand street thugs rising up. This is organized gorilla warfare. Ive seen it before.

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