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    recommended outboard repair guy, SW Indy

    Murphy has been rough on me today. Yesterday I lost a nut in the grass. Not even a magnet would find it.

    I noticed the new to me 1977 Evinrude 9.9 outboard wasnt idling properly so I decided to stick it in the tank and figure it out today. after re-gapping the plugs, running some sea foam, and carb cleaner (and making a huge adjustment to the idle mix knob) I had it purring at ldle like it should.

    I noticed some oil in the tank but assumed it was unburnt 2 cycle due to running rich. Nope. Dropped the water in the tank and the prop was COVERED in grey gear oil. All around the outside, and tons collected inside the prop hub. Spun out the gearbox drain and sure enough, grey oil.

    I think its probably the prop shaft seal given how its all coming out around the prop. And possibly a bearing since it feels gritty as I spin it by hand. Somebody else also suggested the upper crankshaft seal. I THINK I can tackle it as it looks pretty easy at least to get the lower off after watching a howto on an impeller replacement. But wanting to get an idea what a pro would charge in case it might be worth my while to leave it to an expert instead of teaching my kids a handful of new swear words.

    And avoiding the big shops if possible as they have more overhead than smaller shops.

    Suggestions?
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    also, where do we sign up to touch Frank's equipment?

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    Well how is your intro into "OLD BOAT OWNER" status.


    Hey just a cause we all toldya. Did you check that before you bought the outfit.

    There may or may not be some specific tools required to get that gear box apart and then back together properly. I have never done one that small but like any drive unit there are specs/clearances to be observed. Get a manual/spec sheet on it and a list of tools. The spaner nut might be a challenge and might not.

    Be prepared to see some damage if it has been run in the grey for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by churchmouse View Post
    Well how is your intro into "OLD BOAT OWNER" status.


    Hey just a cause we all toldya. Did you check that before you bought the outfit.

    There may or may not be some specific tools required to get that gear box apart and then back together properly. I have never done one that small but like any drive unit there are specs/clearances to be observed. Get a manual/spec sheet on it and a list of tools. The spaner nut might be a challenge and might not.

    Be prepared to see some damage if it has been run in the grey for a while.
    With all due respect, BITE ME. Not the time. Trust me, I'd LOVE a brand new boat and motor, but that wasnt in the budget. So lets move on and skip the a-hole "I told you so" comments. No need to be a jerk.

    Yes, it was purchased from a trusted person, and it was checked at the time. It clean looking and was running clean in his tank, and ran clean at home in my tank before my first outing. So it was good. No hard feelings against the seller.

    It actually went out today while I was fixing the carb issues. (wouldnt idle) It was clean when it came out of the water Wednesday at Eagle Creek, and no oil was visible when I started today. So its only got 30-45 minutes max on the clock while grey. And researching a bit, with modern oil it takes a LONG time after losing oil to do damage. If you catch it quick before too much water displaces most the gear oil it will still have sufficient lubrication. I'm pretty sure a set of new seals and a prop shaft bearing for good measure and I'll be good.

    Now if we can move along with the productive comments, I'd appreciate it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Freeman View Post
    A confused cop is an arresty cop.
    Quote Originally Posted by hoosierdoc View Post
    also, where do we sign up to touch Frank's equipment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameramonkey View Post
    With all due respect, BITE ME. Not the time. Trust me, I'd LOVE a brand new boat and motor, but that wasnt in the budget. So lets move on and skip the a-hole "I told you so" comments. No need to be a jerk.

    Yes, it was purchased from a trusted person, and it was checked at the time. It clean looking and was running clean in his tank, and ran clean at home in my tank before my first outing. So it was good. No hard feelings against the seller.

    It actually went out today while I was fixing the carb issues. (wouldnt idle) It was clean when it came out of the water Wednesday at Eagle Creek, and no oil was visible when I started today. So its only got 30-45 minutes max on the clock while grey. And researching a bit, with modern oil it takes a LONG time after losing oil to do damage. If you catch it quick before too much water displaces most the gear oil it will still have sufficient lubrication. I'm pretty sure a set of new seals and a prop shaft bearing for good measure and I'll be good.

    Now if we can move along with the productive comments, I'd appreciate it.
    ..........gotcha.

    Heck I dont get no respect anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameramonkey View Post
    With all due respect, BITE ME. Not the time. Trust me, I'd LOVE a brand new boat and motor, but that wasnt in the budget. So lets move on and skip the a-hole "I told you so" comments. No need to be a jerk.

    Yes, it was purchased from a trusted person, and it was checked at the time. It clean looking and was running clean in his tank, and ran clean at home in my tank before my first outing. So it was good. No hard feelings against the seller.

    It actually went out today while I was fixing the carb issues. (wouldnt idle) It was clean when it came out of the water Wednesday at Eagle Creek, and no oil was visible when I started today. So its only got 30-45 minutes max on the clock while grey. And researching a bit, with modern oil it takes a LONG time after losing oil to do damage. If you catch it quick before too much water displaces most the gear oil it will still have sufficient lubrication. I'm pretty sure a set of new seals and a prop shaft bearing for good measure and I'll be good.

    Now if we can move along with the productive comments, I'd appreciate it.
    And you can bite me. Not being a jerk. Grow up. Laughing all the way. If you are pissed because your 43 year old boat has an issue we all warned you. Now, bite me. My comments were productive. I have been in several drive units.

    You are your own worst enemy man.

    Would you like to escalate this. I meant all of that in good humor. You can take a beating from the snow flake so WTAF.

    Humor man. Humor.
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    I'm over it and moved on. No need to escalate. <2 hours post fail just wasnt the time for your "humor". I'm good now. I am just counting my blessings that I'm not with RBG. But seriously, its got a solid powerhead, and life is good all things considered.

    And I found a guy that sells fully rebuilt lowers with all new rubbers for $250 shipped. I can swap a lower and install a prop. That's cake and only takes a standard screwdriver as I recall from the impeller video I watched. And I'll have a lower to play with and rebuild myself as a spare over time with no pressure.
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    A confused cop is an arresty cop.
    Quote Originally Posted by hoosierdoc View Post
    also, where do we sign up to touch Frank's equipment?

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    Honestly I would do it yourself. Iím not being hard on you when I say that, because I do this with vehicles, but if youíre going to buy used the only way youíll save the money vs buying new is if you do the work yourself... and itís going to need work, itís used. Thats part of the cheaper price tag when buying. I got rid of my boat years ago for this exact reason, they become a time investment, or if you donít wanna spend the time it turns into a money pit. I would watch some videos or buy a buddy some dinner and beer and do it yourself.
    INGOís bacon hater.

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    Done, done, and Iím on to the next one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by churchmouse View Post
    And you can bite me. Not being a jerk. Grow up. Laughing all the way. If you are pissed because your 43 year old boat has an issue we all warned you. Now, bite me. My comments were productive. I have been in several drive units.

    You are your own worst enemy man.

    Would you like to escalate this. I meant all of that in good humor. You can take a beating from the snow flake so WTAF.

    Humor man. Humor.

    Tonight is a twofer***,, RBG and this thread..... Can it get any better.....
    That circle didn't take long now did it.... I tried....... This is as funny as a city boy on a tractor......

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    Now that that is out of the way...
    Here is some more advice that you wouldn't take like last time. Take that 43 year old outboard and toss it in a dumpster and this winter spend 16 to 26 hundred on a new 4 stroke 9-10hp outboard and enjoy it taking you out and most importantly bringing your family and you back the marina for the next ten years....
    "Too much agreement kills a chat." ~Eldridge Cleaver

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameramonkey View Post
    I'm over it and moved on. No need to escalate. <2 hours post fail just wasnt the time for your "humor". I'm good now. I am just counting my blessings that I'm not with RBG. But seriously, its got a solid powerhead, and life is good all things considered.

    And I found a guy that sells fully rebuilt lowers with all new rubbers for $250 shipped. I can swap a lower and install a prop. That's cake and only takes a standard screwdriver as I recall from the impeller video I watched. And I'll have a lower to play with and rebuild myself as a spare over time with no pressure.
    Watch the video to find the tricks to changing it. Like making sure the motor is in forward gear position. Little things like that make life easy.
    Never do anything you wouldn't want to explain to the paramedics.

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