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    Plumbing Question Part Deux.

    This Monkey's boyhood home is still owned and lived in by his lovely mom, who built it with my dad when they got married. (Oh, and patient... the only way she survived me.) Its on a well, and still has the 6' x 3' upright old school steel pressure tank from at least the 70s, if not from 1967 when they built the house.

    Ive noticed that although she has had a bad iron staining problem since probably the early 90s shortly after I moved out. But in the last 5 years or so, Ive noticed a new issue. The water has a metallic taste, and now the toilets also have started to collect a grey sediment/staining. When I had to drain the tank to reset/re-pressure it, I noticed that I stirred up a bit of grey sediment as I flushed the lines.

    I presume that grey sediment/staining/taste is likely coming from that iron tank? other than some stubs of iron pipe at the tank, its all copper or black plastic. The line from the pump is black plastic, and the lines in the house are copper.

    So time to replace the ginormous "antique" tank with one of the small blue bladder tanks? Is that likely the culprit of the black stuff given the evidence above? that the tank is starting to break down inside?
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    I would guess it is the well pipe itself. As they rust/degrade sediment can build at the bottom of the well. When it pumps some of that gets picked up and moved to your pressure tank. If you do not have a filter before the pressure tank I think that is more likely. When it is the tank itself usually it would just be rust.

    Either way a post tank filter would solve your problem more than likely without having to replace it if cost is an issue.

    Something like this after the pressure tank.
    https://www.homedepot.com/p/GE-Whole...H40L/100669051
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    While I won't say the problem isn't the pipes or tank, my last well in Hamilton county had enough iron that would precipitate in our entirely plastic system that I installed a spin-down filter followed by a sediment filter. I highly suggest the spin-down filter if you don't want to change filters every couple of weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokingman View Post
    I would guess it is the well pipe itself. As they rust/degrade sediment can build at the bottom of the well. When it pumps some of that gets picked up and moved to your pressure tank. If you do not have a filter before the pressure tank I think that is more likely. When it is the tank itself usually it would just be rust.

    Either way a post tank filter would solve your problem more than likely without having to replace it if cost is an issue.

    Something like this after the pressure tank.
    https://www.homedepot.com/p/GE-Whole...H40L/100669051
    Funny. She has that exact one. But Dad removed the filter for some reason before he died, and now no matter what I do, I cant muscle the damn thing apart to get the stuff out of the bottom or add a filter without worrying about destroying it. I dont think he muscled it on. (he didnt have the strength) I think he forgot to lube the seal or something and it seized. I might buy a replacement and just swap out the whole damn thing.
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    Is there a pressure relief button on the filter cap? It will be next to impossible to get the filter out with the pressure still in it.

    Hopefully there is a wrench, most likely plastic, that will fit around the entire filter housing...
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    Have you had your water tested? We are on a new well and I did not want a traditional water softener so went with a salt free water "conditioner." Went with this company; https://www.filterwaterdirect.com/ and they do a free water test. They are not real fast with the test but it is free so..... I would think you should be able to find a county health department or similar to do the testing. Jim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon View Post
    Is there a pressure relief button on the filter cap? It will be next to impossible to get the filter out with the pressure still in it.

    Hopefully there is a wrench, most likely plastic, that will fit around the entire filter housing...

    Yes. Found the button. also tried after draining the system while the pump was off. Wrench likes to slip off. I even tried tapping it with a hammer to encourage it. I wasnt ready to break it and leave her without water so I stopped.
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    A confused cop is an arresty cop.
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    also, where do we sign up to touch Frank's equipment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameramonkey View Post
    This Monkey's boyhood home is still owned and lived in by his lovely mom, who built it with my dad when they got married. (Oh, and patient... the only way she survived me.) Its on a well, and still has the 6' x 3' upright old school steel pressure tank from at least the 70s, if not from 1967 when they built the house.

    Ive noticed that although she has had a bad iron staining problem since probably the early 90s shortly after I moved out. But in the last 5 years or so, Ive noticed a new issue. The water has a metallic taste, and now the toilets also have started to collect a grey sediment/staining. When I had to drain the tank to reset/re-pressure it, I noticed that I stirred up a bit of grey sediment as I flushed the lines.

    I presume that grey sediment/staining/taste is likely coming from that iron tank? other than some stubs of iron pipe at the tank, its all copper or black plastic. The line from the pump is black plastic, and the lines in the house are copper.

    So time to replace the ginormous "antique" tank with one of the small blue bladder tanks? Is that likely the culprit of the black stuff given the evidence above? that the tank is starting to break down inside?
    Does she have a water softener?

    If the water softener is old, the resin can break down and start leaving a grey sediment in the toilets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foszoe View Post
    Does she have a water softener?

    If the water softener is old, the resin can break down and start leaving a grey sediment in the toilets.
    No.
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    A confused cop is an arresty cop.
    Quote Originally Posted by hoosierdoc View Post
    also, where do we sign up to touch Frank's equipment?

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