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    Quote Originally Posted by HoughMade View Post
    He should have been following the 5 rules of safe gun handling.
    And the one rule of safe dancing; under no circumstances should a grown arsed white man be seen dancing in public unless he's 6 beers deep into a wedding reception or he's named Justin Timberlake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoughMade View Post
    I low carb. So:
    Okay. Substitute approved. Carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoughMade View Post
    He should have been following the 5 rules of safe gun handling.
    I see what did. There, in that message I quoted.



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    Were such gambling shenanigans legal in Indiana, I might wager cash, folding money that the soon-to-be-former FBI agent does not claim that he thought the gun was unloaded as part of his defense.



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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino View Post
    Were such gambling shenanigans legal in Indiana, I might wager cash, folding money that the soon-to-be-former FBI agent does not claim that he thought the gun was unloaded as part of his defense.
    I'm not a betting man, but I'd bet a dollar he's not going to claim he thought the gun was unloaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Freeman View Post
    I have heard time and time and time again through the chicken wire reinforced glass over the last 24 years, "eet ain't low-dead". Over and over.
    So, people trying to avoid criminal responsibility are claiming the fault lies with someone other than themselves, namely the inanimate firearm, and they had no criminal intent to shoot someone? Well, that's shocking. If that's what you are basing your gun safety shtick on, it's no wonder you're so far remove from reality. Those poor little darlings you're trying to help get out from behind that chicken wire are (and I'll give you a second to sit down before continuing) lying to you. See, they knew it was loaded and they didn't care. Now they realize they are on a big boy time out, and they need to spin some way for you to get them out of that time out.

    Talking to people who've had an actual unintended discharge that resulted in a bullet striking a human being, the 'I thought it was unloaded' *very* seldom comes up, and normally in the context of reversing the clearing steps on a semi-auto that requires a trigger pull to break down. Rack the slide, drop the mag, pull the trigger, unintended discharge results, often into their off hand or thigh, sometimes both. People who shoot themselves holstering? They don't pretend to believe it's unloaded. Pocket carry discharges? I've yet to hear "I thought it was unloaded". Left a 'stash gun' where a kid could find it? Not once. Dropped it and tried to play catch, got it caught on something, or it just was a POS that wasn't drop safe? Nope, not once. I only hear the Freeman Shtick routinely on INGO, and only from you. Even the people who reverse the clearing steps usually are quite up front of where they made their mistake. "I was complacent" , "I was watching tv cleaning a bunch of guns and wasn't paying attention" , "I'm a dumb a-- who's been doing this for fifty years and I know better" are all things I've heard a lot more than any claim to believe a gun was unloaded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoughMade View Post
    I low carb. So:
    I'll take some!
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    I have been watching this exchange here with mild interest. I am conflicted. I think Kirk can be overboard, but who here can't. But I also feel that I have heard the I did not know it was loaded in a number of newspaper and radio reports over the years on unintentional shootings. I did a search and just went to the first source. Found one. With news reports you never know if it was quoted or added to the story by the reporter.


    In a large metropolitan area in the southern United States, two brothers were playing in their home with two friends while the boys' parents were at work. Initially, they played in the boys' bedroom using the bunk beds and bedspreads to build "forts"; they also engaged in gun play using plastic toy guns. Later, they divided into two teams to play hide-and-seek. One of the boys, a 13-year-old, hid in his parents' bedroom where he found his father's 12-gauge shotgun stored under the bed. The shotgun was kept in the house for protection; the boy did not know it was loaded. When his friend, also aged 13 years, entered the room looking for him, the boy who was hiding inadvertently discharged the gun, killing his friend. Analysis of National Mortality Data

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00017018.htm
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    ...the boy did not know it was loaded...
    The boy also did not know if it was unloaded.

    But, it seems the boy did likely pull the trigger while the gun was pointed at his friend, and both of those actions (the actual violations of safe gun handling) should be the featured points of instruction and correction.

    Even if he had tried claiming after the fact that he believed it was unloaded, that wouldn't change anything and the typical speech impediment response would still seem out of place here in a gun owners discussion forum.


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    I think the use of that phrase is always often present in news reports because the honest answer seems unacceptable. It is a cop out. Proper gun handling prevents the tragedy.

    Loaded or not treat them as though they are loaded.
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