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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino View Post
    Why, you!!! I oughtta . . .
    Were you going to say "cut yourself"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Freeman View Post
    Can we ban random people? I randomly choose to ban . . . rhino.
    I hate to get involved....but I think we may have a slight misunderstanding of the word "random".
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    My guns won't be illegal....they'll be undocumented.

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    Giving the ISP the benefit of the doubt that cost is the reason, WHY NOT at least equip newer Troopers with body cameras?
    In the case of Trooper Organ, if even PART of the accounts I've been reading from people stopped by him and treated unprofessionally are true, it could've headed off what happened.
    His superiors could've gotten him under control and given him an attitude adjustment.

    I will never believe that Rightsell was working on his daughter's vehicle, saw Trooper Organ and tried to pull a gun on him.

    It doesn't make sense, and when it doesn't make sense, it's more likely than not that Trooper Organ's account is NOT the way it really happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoughMade View Post
    I hate to get involved....but I think we may have a slight misunderstanding of the word "random".
    Fine, be that way.

    Drill is cancelled now and I can't buy cops Punch Burgers. I really wanted a Punch Burger, now I don't get one and it's . . . rhino's fault!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank_N_Stein View Post
    Do it. I'll provide the alibi.
    Pffft, what's he gonna do, sell me another gun or knife?

    Just let him vent, I'll mock him later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank_N_Stein View Post
    Do it. I'll provide the alibi.
    Oh, enabling a mischief maker is always fun, but sometimes has unfortunate consequences!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Freeman View Post
    Pffft, what's he gonna do, sell me another gun or knife?

    Just let him vent, I'll mock him later.





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    Quote Originally Posted by edporch View Post
    Giving the ISP the benefit of the doubt that cost is the reason, WHY NOT at least equip newer Troopers with body cameras?
    In the case of Trooper Organ, if even PART of the accounts I've been reading from people stopped by him and treated unprofessionally are true, it could've headed off what happened.
    His superiors could've gotten him under control and given him an attitude adjustment.

    I will never believe that Rightsell was working on his daughter's vehicle, saw Trooper Organ and tried to pull a gun on him.

    It doesn't make sense, and when it doesn't make sense, it's more likely than not that Trooper Organ's account is NOT the way it really happened.
    I still like my idea. Axon or Digital Ally provide cameras at no cost in exchange for the rights to broadcast what is stored on cameras, department pay storage. I would think if Googlemaps can block faces and numbers, why can't the same be done with body cams? I guess the law Pence signed on body cams has really added extra costs to departments. I personally think the "We cant afford it" excuse don't cut it. With the money we waste escorting windmills and flagging traffic...

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    I used to see a lot of semis transporting windmill parts on 41, and never saw a police escort. .Of course that is one long straight shot, it may be different on country roads.

    It seems to me that cameras would be fabulous for evidence in civil cases brought against municipalities and save a lot of money in the long run.

    If the video clearly showed that the officer acted correctly, it would could stop the suit in pre-trial.

    If it indicated that the officer was in the wrong, it could lead to a quick settlement and avoid court costs to the citizens.

    It seems that the rank and file officers here are for cameras. I cannot understand why the leadership is against them, I do not buy the cost aspect.




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