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    Self-Defense Bill (HB 1284) Set for Hearing on Jan. 28

    In Indiana, a person who defends his life or the life of another with lawful and justified force in self-defense can still be sued by the criminal involved - and face years of incredibly stressful and expensive litigation. HB 1284 (which I drafted), introduced by Rep. Jim Lucas and co-authored by Reps. Ben Smaltz and Christy Stutzman, would weed out the frivolous cases and give real meaning to Indiana's current policy that "No person in this state shall be placed in legal jeopardy of any kind whatsoever for protecting the person or a third person by reasonable means necessary." (Ind. Code 35-41-3-2(c))

    I discussed HB 1284 on last night's The Gun Guy Show (link below) - and why this bill should become law in Indiana. Please share - and please contact your state legislators and ask them to support this important legislation - which will be heard in the Judiciary Committee TOMORROW (Monday) at 10:30 am in Room 156-D in the Statehouse.

    You can find contact information for your legislator here: Find your Legislator - Indiana General Assembly, 2019 Session

    Link to HB 1284:
    House Bill 1284 - Self-defense and the defense of others - Indiana General Assembly, 2019 Session

    Link to The Gun Guy Show:
    https://omny.fm/shows/the-gun-guy/01...gun-guy-hour-1

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    Great bill, and hopefully it will pass. I actually got an email from the NRA about this HB on Friday, and I made some contacts with my legislators.

    Thanks for all you do!

    Ron

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    Morning Guy! I wish I could be there Monday for 1284, life gets in the way sometimes.

    You must have good Intel on 1643 and 1651 being up for hearings on Wednesday. Barring anything unforeseen I'll be there on the 30th.

    The INGO 2A Legislation thread link is below:

    https://www.ingunowners.com/forums/l...thread-15.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyinAvon View Post
    Morning Guy! I wish I could be there Monday for 1284, life gets in the way sometimes.

    You must have good Intel on 1643 and 1651 being up for hearings on Wednesday. Barring anything unforeseen I'll be there on the 30th.

    The INGO 2A Legislation thread link is below:

    https://www.ingunowners.com/forums/l...thread-15.html
    Hey, Kelly. Yeah, I might have a source or two. ;-)

    Hope to see you on Wed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    Great bill, and hopefully it will pass. I actually got an email from the NRA about this HB on Friday, and I made some contacts with my legislators.

    Thanks for all you do!

    Ron
    Thanks, Ron!
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    It's self-defense, not stand your ground FOX 59. They also seem to miss it's not a gun bill. I see the usual suspects came out against. It's tabled and up for further discussion later in the session.

    Edit: For the use of deadly force to be lawful: loss of life, serious bodily injury, or prevent forcible felony boxes must be checked. Prof Madeira is wrong, this law wouldn't change that.

    INDIANAPOLIS, Ind. - Changes could soon be coming to Indiana’s “Stand Your Ground” law. The proposal, House Bill 1284, would expand protections for someone who uses deadly force to stop a crime, but it’s also creating controversy.


    People who favor this bill say it’s needed to protect law-abiding citizens who use force to keep themselves or others safe. But opponents say if that bill passes as it stands now, it’s a clear path to vigilante justice.
    “I couldn’t just stand there and watch a police officer murdered in front of my eyes when I had the ability to help that day, and so I helped,” said Kystie Phillips during her testimony on Monday in front of the House Judiciary Committee.


    In 2017, Phillips shot and killed a man who was attacking a police officer during a traffic stop outside her home in Rising Sun, Indiana. Prosecutors said she acted lawfully, but she’s now being sued by that suspect’s family.
    “I worry about if I’ll be able to take care of my daughters,” said Phillips. “I worry about how long and how expensive this is going to be.”


    The law would also move the burden of proof to the plaintiff, who would have to convince a judge why the person who used force against them did so unlawfully.
    But, opponents say the bill is too broad.


    “The bottom line is that House Bill 1284 encourages folks to shoot others without a de-escalation process,” said Alexa Griffith, speaking on behalf of Moms Demand Action. That group advocates for stricter gun control measures across the country.


    Indiana University law professor Dr. Jody Lynee Madeira testified against House Bill 1284, although she agrees that people who use justifiable force shouldn’t face civil penalties. However, she said the bill needs more focus on specific types of felonies.


    “The bill, as it stands now, references ‘a felony,’” said Madeira, “and I think we want to make sure that we know this only applies to the commission of forcible felonies…that carry a risk of serious bodily harm.”

    https://fox59.com/2019/01/28/bill-co...ur-ground-law/
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    “The bill, as it stands now, references ‘a felony,’” said Madeira, “and I think we want to make sure that we know this only applies to the commission of forcible felonies…that carry a risk of serious bodily harm.”
    Is she is referencing the word "felony" in the language from 35-41-3-2(b)(1)? That is when one CANNOT claim self-defense. So, our favorite law professor is arguing for a broader application of self-defense by limiting felonies to "forcible felonies".

    Way to think it through, Professor Brandeis.
    I told you to get ready. Are you?

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    Sorry if this seems like an obvious question to you more well-versed people, but I am assuming that this type of bill would only be of interest to the state legislators, and not to the congressional legislators, correct?

    Just asking so as to select the correct people to email. Thanks.
    Man is Not Free Unless Government is Limited - Ronald Reagan


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark 1911 View Post
    Sorry if this seems like an obvious question to you more well-versed people, but I am assuming that this type of bill would only be of interest to the state legislators, and not to the congressional legislators, correct?

    Just asking so as to select the correct people to email. Thanks.
    This is in Indy, not D.C. Your State rep and Senator. Fire away to the House Judiciary Committee too if you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyinAvon View Post
    This is in Indy, not D.C. Your State rep and Senator. Fire away to the House Judiciary Committee too if you want.
    Thank you.
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