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  1. #21
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    I fear it will be a looooooooong time, if ever, before school boards readily accept teachers carrying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lonehoosier View Post
    Sorry but I donít think the taxpayers should be paying for this. If teachers or school employees want to seek training and the school board approves for it so be it but that law is already exists.
    Maybe we could call it Teacher Gun Training Church andget all kinds of tax relief?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trapper Jim View Post
    Maybe we could call it Teacher Gun Training Church andget all kinds of tax relief?
    If that floats your boat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bwframe View Post
    I fear it will be a looooooooong time, if ever, before school boards readily accept teachers carrying.
    Yep.. I'd say about 30 more school shootings long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trapper Jim View Post
    Maybe we could call it Teacher Gun Training Church andget all kinds of tax relief?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoughMade View Post
    At the risk of incurring wrath, I'm going to go out on a limb and agree that this is reasonable.
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    Just musing, but the law puts in a place a tone, if you will. In other words, the GA is saying, "Arming teachers is good, and we are ensuring there is a path to get them properly trained." The hope is that boards will look at this as something desirable, some path that's already laid out. From my experience, school boards hate to be trailblazers and will do everything possible to keep a low profile.

    This would, at the least, keep the ball rolling, and keep it in the public eye.
    Yes. Currently it is possible to get armed teachers in classrooms. But its currently not happening. Likely because the school boards are not willing to take the risk of a random teacher being armed. How do they know they will be safe?

    Now if we sweeten the pot and say "OK, now you have the option of approving properly trained teachers to carry in the classroom. Thats inching toward the idea that a properly trained adult can carry if it is his job (SRO) so anyone else who is properly trained MAY do so as well.

    Im not a fan of training requirements to carry in general, but I see this as a step forward. I'd take trained armed teachers over no armed teachers. If this creates a tipping point, that is awesome.
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    OK, it doesn't establish a requirement. The bill provides for training designed by LEO instructors. If authorized by school board the teacher/employee can carry now. A total of THREE school districts allow this per the Jay County schools supe who testified in favor of HB 1253 yesterday.

    This is a grant, doesn't hit the school for the cost. School boards still have control if this bill passes or not.

    As Coach said in his testimony, this gives his Supe an option to make a decision.

    As I wanted to scream several times yesterday, if you have an active shooter, the time for root cause analysis has past. It is time for action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lonehoosier View Post
    Sorry but I donít think the taxpayers should be paying for this. If teachers or school employees want to seek training and the school board approves for it so be it but that law is already exists.
    I'll go as far to say that police need to stop providing firearms training to officers. If they want know how to use the firearms they carry at work, they have to get that training on their own and pay for it themselves.
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    The whole thing made more sense when it removed the GFZ for school properties/buses for ALL with an LTCH.
    (so much for that training required crap ... as one who was trained by our own H&K - I have no certificates to back it up.)
    (and I do have grandkids in school; and my dad was a teacher for 38 yrs) ...

    BUT as it is (and from my very limited ability to follow this year) - the purpose to to get teachers/staff a path to approval that school boards should find acceptable
    and a free (they're already giving 40 hrs (that's a work week) of their time to get the training - the cost for several teachers to be trained is less than 1 SRO for a year.

    Anyway. IMO/ YMMV etc. - back to the grindstone keeping me busy from actively helping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bwframe View Post
    I fear it will be a looooooooong time, if ever, before school boards readily accept teachers carrying.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dead Duck View Post
    Yep.. I'd say about 30 more school shootings long.
    We need to take the school board out of the loop on the decision making. There are certainly places where school boards have their use, but this isn't one of them.

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