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  • Smitty506th

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    I think this is a no-brainer but I was just wondering if anyone in here knew if converting a .22 to full auto required a class 3. I am thinking yes but I thought I would ask anyway. Also if one were to convert it would you then have to get it registered? (Not that "up" on class 3 info, thus the questions)
     

    Colt556

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    I'm no expert but I'd say yes to both. I'm thinking it might have to be converted by a Class 3, or is it 2, manufacturer. I'm sure you'll get the correct answer here soon though.
     

    Don

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    No new full auto since may 1986, sorry unless your a c3 dealer/SOT. Your not converting one unless you buy a REGISTERED prior to 1986 trigger pack.
     

    Bill of Rights

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    legally for the general publis there is no way to convert a semi auto firearm to F/A

    That's what I thought before I read BigCraig and Don's posts.

    FWIW, though, that surprised me. I thought you had to have a registered (prior to 86) receiver, which is the actual firearm. Craig or Don, what's the registered part on those? Your mention of a "trigger pack" makes me think you're talking about several parts. Clarify, please? :)

    Thanks and Blessings,
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    VUPDblue

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    The trigger pack on a 10/22 contains all of the FCG parts. John Norrell built some of these that were fully automatic and registered a crap ton of them before the ban as machineguns. All that is required is to swap trigger packs from the factory one to the Norrell FA one and you've got a 10/22 machinegun. The packs come up for sale often and they are usually $10k.

    To clarify, the 10/22's receiver is the firearm, but the trigger pack is the machinegun. Kind of like a drop-in auto-sear on an AR.
     

    Bill of Rights

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    The trigger pack on a 10/22 contains all of the FCG parts. John Norrell built some of these that were fully automatic and registered a crap ton of them before the ban as machineguns. All that is required is to swap trigger packs from the factory one to the Norrell FA one and you've got a 10/22 machinegun. The packs come up for sale often and they are usually $10k.

    To clarify, the 10/22's receiver is the firearm, but the trigger pack is the machinegun. Kind of like a drop-in auto-sear on an AR.

    Thanks, Nick, I appreciate the speedy reply! Rep'd for good info.

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    CountryBoy19

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    Just as a side note, and this is only internet rumor, but nobody knows how many trigger packs Norrel has, but he has been selling 10 per year since the ban and he isn't out of them yet. He has a waiting list over 2 years long at a price of $10K or more.

    Take this with a grain of salt because it is only things I've read on the internet.
     

    bigcraig

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    Just as a side note, and this is only internet rumor, but nobody knows how many trigger packs Norrel has, but he has been selling 10 per year since the ban and he isn't out of them yet. He has a waiting list over 2 years long at a price of $10K or more.

    Take this with a grain of salt because it is only things I've read on the internet.

    To further the rumor, it is said that before the 86 ban, John Norrel had hired an army of people to do nothing but fill out NFA paperwork. In theory, JN may have paper on thousands of 10/22 trigger packs, that haven't even been made, yet.

    But the world may never know the truth, but the rumor sounds better.;)
     

    Smitty506th

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    Well........ It's just a new plinking toy. Thanx for the info. If I was going to spend 10K on a weapons system I would mount a MK19 on my roof and spend the rest to feed it. Thats the best full auto I ever shot.
     

    knobcreeknut

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    I believe there are 1 or 2 MK19's that are transferable, seems like I saw one awhile back in the $200,000 range 10k wouldn't quite get one. I would however agree that it is a fine weapon. I would hate to think of the cost to feed one though
     

    Bigum1969

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    To further the rumor, it is said that before the 86 ban, John Norrel had hired an army of people to do nothing but fill out NFA paperwork. In theory, JN may have paper on thousands of 10/22 trigger packs, that haven't even been made, yet.

    But the world may never know the truth, but the rumor sounds better.;)


    Sounds like a smart guy.
     

    hippykiller

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    Just as a side note, and this is only internet rumor, but nobody knows how many trigger packs Norrel has, but he has been selling 10 per year since the ban and he isn't out of them yet. He has a waiting list over 2 years long at a price of $10K or more.

    Take this with a grain of salt because it is only things I've read on the internet.

    Wow... Ten a year, at $10K a pop, nice little retirement plan if you ask me...
     

    cordex

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    To further the rumor, it is said that before the 86 ban, John Norrel had hired an army of people to do nothing but fill out NFA paperwork. In theory, JN may have paper on thousands of 10/22 trigger packs, that haven't even been made, yet.

    But the world may never know the truth, but the rumor sounds better.;)
    Seems like the ATF would have done an audit of some sort in the past 23 years that would have uncovered that kind of scheme ... unless he had something to show in place of trigger packs that weren't yet completed.

    Regardless, if there is any truth to it, good on him.
     

    bigcraig

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    Seems like the ATF would have done an audit of some sort in the past 23 years that would have uncovered that kind of scheme ... unless he had something to show in place of trigger packs that weren't yet completed.

    Regardless, if there is any truth to it, good on him.

    AFAIK, there is nothing illegal about JNs actions. Just smart thinking on his part.

    Lets not forget that JN had to have quite a bit of money in hand to take on this, supposed, feet of financial brillance.
     

    rhino

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    Aside from regulatory issues, I have to say this:

    The second most fun firearm I have ever fired was a suppressed, select fire 10/22.

    The one gun that was more fun than that gun was the same action/trigger group in a Krinker Plinker stock.

    If I were going to get a full auto or select fire gun, it would be one of those trigger packs or something similar. Ammo cost for a centerfire machine gun would quickly eclipse the initial costs, but you could feed a 10/22 fairly reasonably. For now.
     
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