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    Would brings us in line with much of the rest of the non-sh*thole world. Finland stocks suppressors on hardware store shelves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shootersix View Post
    So now, everyone's assignment is to go to the asa website, and enter you info
    Support the Hearing Protection Act
    it'll generate an email to your legislators telling them you support this

    or better yet, look up their email address, and take the time to write something in your own words. that'll look better than some form letter!
    Done.

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    this is the wording of the email that I sent to Larry Buschon yesterday (I have saved it, and I'm going to send it to Coats and Donnelly soon


    good morning,yesterday on 1.9.17 h.r.367 was introduced also called the Duncan-Carterhearing protection act, it's a law that would remove suppressors from thenational firearms act, I'm contacting you to let you know that I'm in 100 %support of this bill! as a lifelong firearms shooter/gun owner, this bill wouldbe a huge benefit to all shooters


    the currentprocess is as follows (if you don't know)
    1 purchase thesuppressor from the gun shop
    2 fill out thepaper work for the atf and submit fingerprints, 2 photos, and a check for200.00 to the atf
    3 wait 6-9 monthsfor approval from the atf to be sent to the gun shop where the initial purchasewas made
    4 go to the gunshop and fill out a form 4473 just like you're purchasing a firearm(no callwill be made to the fbi due to the background check being done by the atf)

    the new processwould be
    1 go to the gunshop, fill out a 4473, and undergo a background check by the fbi just likeyou're buying a firearm and if you get approved, you will be able to leave withthe suppressor

    it will be a morestreamlined process for something that's a part for a firearm (yes a part) thesuppressor is no good without the gun to shoot it!. we don't pay a 200.00dollar tax and wait 9 months to replace a stock, or buy a scope! and we don'tpay 200.00 to buy a set of earplugs/earmuffs
    the sameprocess's that are in place to stop guns from falling in the wrong hands willstill be in place to stop suppressors from falling in the wrong hands. in fact,the person purchasing a suppressor might even have a second check done (if theypurchase the suppressor at a different time than the firearm)

    and how wouldthis benefit the shooting hobby?
    1 a hunter with asuppressor would be able to shoot at that deer or duck without his ears ringing(at some point, if you hunt enough the ringing won’t stop!)
    2 I canpersonally tell you that I've watched my daughter flinch, and jerk the triggerbecause she's anticipating the flash and bang associated with shooting ahandgun (and yes even while she is wearing ear muffs!)
    3 in a homedefense situation, if I had to defend myself I could do so without makingmyself or my daughters deaf
    4 more companieswill make suppressors, bringing prices down to make them more affordable andavailable to the shooters

    Thank you fortaking time to read this email and feel free to contact me with any questions
    Never too many sigs in your safe!-mike4sigs

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    Sent. Again I think.. pretty I've sent it before but who cares I'll send one daily!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shootersix View Post
    we knew it was going to happen, but this on the American suppressor association website today
    ASA ANNOUNCES REINTRODUCTION OF HEARING PROTECTION ACT: A BILL TO REMOVE SUPPRESSORS FROM THE NFA

    I looked on the congress.gov website, and its not listed there yet, but I just imagine it hasn't had time to be posted yet

    once its listed, I firing off emails to my senators and congressman
    And I would bet we have a real chance at this, this time.
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    Of course this is assuming they are interested in facts, how do we educate those against suppressors? How do we get them exposed to the REALITY of them so they can see how harmless and beneficial they are? If these were construction equipment, they would be ALL OVER themselves forcing enhanced muffler regulations. Can you imagine if somebody came out with a muffler for a jackhammer that would allow the operator to shed his muffs? It would pass in a nanosecond!

    They cant all be foolish enough to think that they work like the movies where you only hear a FFFFFFT sound that cant be heard in the next room? Can they?

    Or are they SO anti gun that they just cant get behind ANYTHING good for us?

    And arent there certain EU countries where suppressors are REQUIRED for hunting? I thought I read that but I could be wrong.

    Now if they really DID make a gun go FFFFFFT I could understand some trepidation and fear that it could embolden and encourage illicit activities like in the movies. But that is just not factual.
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    also, where do we sign up to touch Frank's equipment?

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    68 co-sponsers now. Several from Indiana.

    Quote Originally Posted by shootersix View Post
    since it was introduced yesterday, not much is showing on the congress.gov website, but here's the link

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...%22%5D%7D&r=21

    already has 43 cosponsors (even 1 democrat) that last bill had 82 cosponsors and 2 were dems

    I've bookmarked this, so I can keep up to date on the latest updates

    so tell your friends!

    I've already converted 1 person who said "I'm a hunter, and I'm a gun owner, I don't see why people need silencers!"

    my reply was "you're a hunter right?....when a deer comes out from behind the bush, do you put on your earmuffs?...or do you pull the trigger and listen to your ears ring?.....well someday that ringing wont stop."

    my next comment was "have you ever taken a person new to shooting, and watched them flinch, or close their eyes waiting and anticipating the flash, recoil and bang?....well suppressors help stop that"

    his next remark was "ok I've heard enough, you've converted me"

    so now, everyone's assignment is to go to the asa website, and enter you info
    Support the Hearing Protection Act
    it'll generate an email to your legislators telling them you support this

    or better yet, look up their email address, and take the time to write something in your own words. that'll look better than some form letter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameramonkey View Post
    Of course this is assuming they are interested in facts, how do we educate those against suppressors? How do we get them exposed to the REALITY of them so they can see how harmless and beneficial they are? If these were construction equipment, they would be ALL OVER themselves forcing enhanced muffler regulations. Can you imagine if somebody came out with a muffler for a jackhammer that would allow the operator to shed his muffs? It would pass in a nanosecond!

    They cant all be foolish enough to think that they work like the movies where you only hear a FFFFFFT sound that cant be heard in the next room? Can they?

    Or are they SO anti gun that they just cant get behind ANYTHING good for us?

    And arent there certain EU countries where suppressors are REQUIRED for hunting? I thought I read that but I could be wrong.

    Now if they really DID make a gun go FFFFFFT I could understand some trepidation and fear that it could embolden and encourage illicit activities like in the movies. But that is just not factual.
    It's all ginned up uneducated movie fear. There is really no factually based logical reason for sound SUPPRESSORS to be a restricted NFA item. I would ask those opposed to such a thing to go back to when suppressors were added to the list and do research and find out if there were a big rash of criminal activities involving the use of suppressors at the time that warranted their restriction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GodFearinGunTotin View Post
    68 co-sponsers now. Several from Indiana.
    I'll be honest; I haven't really paid close attention to the more technical side of our government since my government class in high school. So please forgive the ignorant question but... assuming things go as we all would hope, how long should we reasonable expect to wait before this thing passes? I understand this is an unanswerable question, but are we looking at months or years?
    I dont live in Kandahar. I dont need a 20rd 9mm with two extra magazines to drop you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE BIG SITT View Post
    I'll be honest; I haven't really paid close attention to the more technical side of our government since my government class in high school. So please forgive the ignorant question but... assuming things go as we all would hope, how long should we reasonable expect to wait before this thing passes? I understand this is an unanswerable question, but are we looking at months or years?
    If it is allowed to get heard in committee, that's the first step. If it's not allowed, it's done for this year and we'd have to wait and see if it would be offered next year and the whole process would start all over again.

    Assuming it sails right through the House, then it goes over to the Senate. Then, it has to get passed there. If there are any changes, it has to go to committee to get the language straightened out and hopefully both chambers will agree. Once it makes it through all of that, it's to the governor. Then there's the deadline for the legislative session. I'm not sure but I think the session is over in February or March. It all has to happen in that time.

    Then they're usually made effective the following July.

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