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Thread: Is it a pistol? AOW? SBR? Or illegal?

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    Is it a pistol? AOW? SBR? Or illegal?

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    Pistol.

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    Tetsu ōkami Ruger_Ronin's Avatar

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    Classified as UAF, Ugly As F.......
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    Illegal. The front grip means that it is no longer designed to be fired with one hand, therefore no longer a pistol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Habib View Post
    Illegal. The front grip means that it is no longer designed to be fired with one hand, therefore no longer a pistol.
    I would disagree. The BATF has defined vertical grips as being at 90 degrees. All manner of angled foregrips are legal.
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    Plinker Spazzmodicus's Avatar

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    Thanks for the responses.
    Sig 239 9mm, Sig 229 9mm/.357,
    Sig 226 9mm W.G. x2, Sig 226 9mm Interarms,
    Sig 226 .40, Sig 226 .22 LR, Phoenix HP22LR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruger_Ronin View Post
    Classified as UAF, Ugly As F.......
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    Not trying to create a piece of art. Just wanting to make a quick-access "Kyle Rittenhouse" car gun. I have a Zenitco 2PS laser on the way from Russia. But my main question was about the forgrip. It's not a standard 90 degree foregrip, so does that change anything?or suddenly reclassify it, as is?
    Sig 239 9mm, Sig 229 9mm/.357,
    Sig 226 9mm W.G. x2, Sig 226 9mm Interarms,
    Sig 226 .40, Sig 226 .22 LR, Phoenix HP22LR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Habib View Post
    Illegal. The front grip means that it is no longer designed to be fired with one hand, therefore no longer a pistol.
    I disagree. Adding an arm brace and using it as a buttstock(which at this point is permissible with the ATF) does not suddenly turn the pistol into a rifle. So by the same token, holding a pistol with two hands does it make it NOT a pistol. It is not illegal to use any pistol with two hands nor does two handed operation magically reclassify as an AOW or something else. But if you want to cite some documentation I will be glad hear what you have to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by snorko View Post
    All manner of angled foregrips are legal.
    This was my understanding but one never knows what phase of PMS the ATF may be feeling any given moment or day.
    Sig 239 9mm, Sig 229 9mm/.357,
    Sig 226 9mm W.G. x2, Sig 226 9mm Interarms,
    Sig 226 .40, Sig 226 .22 LR, Phoenix HP22LR

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    Tetsu ōkami Ruger_Ronin's Avatar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spazzmodicus View Post


    Not trying to create a piece of art. Just wanting to make a quick-access "Kyle Rittenhouse" car gun. I have a Zenitco 2PS laser on the way from Russia. But my main question was about the forgrip. It's not a standard 90 degree foregrip, so does that change anything?or suddenly reclassify it, as is?
    See post #6, but I'm no expert.
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