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    Basic Sharpener and sharpening devices question?

    So, New to knives, (or at least to sharpening them and caring for them. LOL) Used stones as kid/teen. Three questions:

    1. I saw a SOG SH 02 Table top sharpener on Amazon for $17. Are these decent? Any angle to hold it at?
    2. What should I expect to pay for a basic set of sharpening stones
    3. Differences between sharpening carbon steel versus stainless? (Ceramic sharpeners work on both?)

    Thanks in advance!
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    The SOG sharpener you referenced might be okay for an occasional touch up. Definitely worth having something like that. Careful with these sharpeners though, as you can easily blunt your blade tip if you pull the knife all the way through and let the tip scrape the sharpening material on the way out.

    I personally use something like this for touch-ups: https://www.amazon.com/Lansky-4-rod-...nife+sharpener .

    I also use: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


    Sooner or later, you'll want something that you can use to reprofile an edge. The aforementioned sharpeners won't do that. I use an Edge Pro for this purpose and can highly recommend it. https://www.edgeproinc.com/Apex-Mode...Pro-System-c3/

    The Wicked Edge system is also very popular. https://wickededgeusa.com/

    If money is really tight, you could easily use the Lansky system. https://lansky.com/index.php/product...-stone-system/

    I've had no trouble sharpening everything from 1095 carbon to D2 to M390 knife steel with the aforementioned systems. D2 and M390 can really put a hurtin' on a traditional stone, so you may consider the diamond variety of stone for those blades.

    Eventually you'll learn many tricks to sharpen effectively, regardless of the system(s) you choose. The key to sharpening is looking for the burr and understanding the proper sharpening angle for a particular blade. Good luck in your search!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hammerd13 View Post
    The SOG sharpener you referenced might be okay for an occasional touch up. Definitely worth having something like that. Careful with these sharpeners though, as you can easily blunt your blade tip if you pull the knife all the way through and let the tip scrape the sharpening material on the way out.

    I personally use something like this for touch-ups: https://www.amazon.com/Lansky-4-rod-...nife+sharpener .

    I also use: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


    Sooner or later, you'll want something that you can use to reprofile an edge. The aforementioned sharpeners won't do that. I use an Edge Pro for this purpose and can highly recommend it. https://www.edgeproinc.com/Apex-Mode...Pro-System-c3/

    The Wicked Edge system is also very popular. https://wickededgeusa.com/

    If money is really tight, you could easily use the Lansky system. https://lansky.com/index.php/product...-stone-system/

    I've had no trouble sharpening everything from 1095 carbon to D2 to M390 knife steel with the aforementioned systems. D2 and M390 can really put a hurtin' on a traditional stone, so you may consider the diamond variety of stone for those blades.

    Eventually you'll learn many tricks to sharpen effectively, regardless of the system(s) you choose. The key to sharpening is looking for the burr and understanding the proper sharpening angle for a particular blade. Good luck in your search!!
    Cool, Thanks! There was a deal on the 4 rod lansky and the SOG. So like a buy one get one half off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cygnus View Post
    So, New to knives, (or at least to sharpening them and caring for them. LOL) Used stones as kid/teen. Three questions:

    1. I saw a SOG SH 02 Table top sharpener on Amazon for $17. Are these decent? Any angle to hold it at?
    2. What should I expect to pay for a basic set of sharpening stones
    3. Differences between sharpening carbon steel versus stainless? (Ceramic sharpeners work on both?)

    Thanks in advance!
    The SOG thing might be okay for cheap kitchen knives that you don't care about, but I wouldn't use it on a knife that you intend to keep and use long term. It look like it uses a pair of tungsten carbide cutters to rip metal off of the blade, which is common for cheap, pull-through sharpeners. It will make a dull knife sharper, but it will also destroy it over time and the edge it produces won't be very good without additional work.

    If you want a simple, easy to use sharpener: get the Spyderco Sharpmaker. Lots of videos available to show you how to use it. If your knife is really dull, you may want to add the diamond sleeves.


    If you want to use stones, I recommend starting with a Norton combination India stone. One side is coarse for removing a lot of metal quickly and the other side is relatively fine to finish the edge. You can get an 8x2x1 inch Norton combination stone for under $25. If you need a more refined edge, you can add another finer stone or even use the Sharpmaker afterward.

    Sharpening carbon steel vs. stainless steel is a complicated question because the alloys used for knives have gotten more numerous and more complicated. Some steels are more abrasion resistant than others, which is why they tend to hold an edge longer, but it also makes them more challenging to sharpen. In general, simple carbon steels like 1095 are easier to sharpen than most stainless steels, but heat treatment and how hard the steel is can make a huge difference.

    Ceramics will work on any steel, but they work best for maintaining already sharp edges because they don't remove metal very quickly. If you have to sharpen a truly dull blade with ceramics, it's going to take significant effort compared to a Norton stone or a coarse water stone, for instance. Diamond abrasives abrade steel the quickest.



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    I use Ez lap stones. I finally wore out my small 25 year old "stone" and in the last couple years upgraded to below link. It's large enough to handle large chefs knives and even long filet knives. Requires basic sharpening skills but will put a fine edge very quickly on knives.
    https://www.amazon.com/EZE-LAP-DD6SF...eywords=Ez+lap

    Edit to add, I actually have the 3 x 8....600 and 1200. It's more costly than above link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino View Post
    : get the Spyderco Sharpmaker.

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    I agree with the purple pachyderm! and believe me, he knows sharp blades!, just ask his bloody fingers! (and the guy who stiches him up!)
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    The Spyderco Sharpmaker will only work if you're able to consistently and repeatedly keep your wrist at such an angle that the knife blade is perpendicular to the floor.

    IE - keep the blade perpendicular and let the angled stones of the sharpener be "the angle".

    From my previous experience with a Sharpmaker - I cannot do this well enough for long enough to get even crappy results from a Sharpmaker. I sold it. It leaves too much room for error and inconsistency. If some of y'all CAN - that's awesome.

    I bought an inexpensive Lanskey sharpening system and...haven't used it. I'd buy a Wicked Edge if I could even come close to thinking I could afford it / justify it.
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    Buy once....cry once.......Wicked Edge.

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    Keepem' Scary Sharp!!! WhitleyStu's Avatar

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    Start with a guided sharpener like Lansky, Edge Pro or Wicked Edge. The results from a guided sharpener will keep you from ruining blades in the beginning. After over 40 years of sharpening I still use several guided sharpeners; a Tormek for a nice "V" grind and a Reeder with knife attachment for both a "V" grind or a convex edge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradsknives View Post
    Buy once....cry once.......Wicked Edge.
    I do like mine quite a bit and have started using it to sharpen the knives I make instead of doing it on the grinder.

    I had the Lansky system above for years and for basic sharpening duties I always liked it. It's no Wicked Edge, but it isn't $600 either: https://lansky.com/index.php/product...-stone-system/
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