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Another Orlando Shooting Spree
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did the "disgruntled" former employee also shout "Allahu akbar" ?
if it's like San Bernadino, sometimes workplace violence isn't aways compartamentalized to ONLY workplace issues.
Edit to add: I certainly hope that's not the case. It's tragic either way. When they don't release the dead gunman's name for 5+ hours, I start wondering a bit...
if it's like San Bernadino, sometimes workplace violence isn't aways compartamentalized to ONLY workplace issues.
Edit to add: I certainly hope that's not the case. It's tragic either way. When they don't release the dead gunman's name for 5+ hours, I start wondering a bit...
What I find very frustrating, after so many of these terrible experiences, is that law enforcement continues to endorse the belief / attitude that the only way we have a fighting chance is by the public reporting to the police. Reporting activity is all fine and good, but how would that have helped in this situation? Why, after all these experiences, does law enforcement still hold on to the fantasy that somehow they can police these situations away? The one most valuable resource in the equation seems to be willfully ignored. i.e. an armed public.
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Doesn't fit their agenda. Actually, it directly contravenes it.
HubertGummer
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Bet anything it was/is against company policy to carry a gun in that workplace.
5 people died when they didn't have to. Sad.
5 people died when they didn't have to. Sad.
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I used to work at a now defunct injection-molding plant.
We had one guy of questionable mental stability working as a material handler, who (he never served) freely and openly talked about his time in the military to me, even though I could figure out right away (I am a Navy veteran) that he was talking bull****.
I just nodded and acted as if I believed him, all the better to avoid irritating him.
One day, he got himself fired, and all of us in the plant were more than a little concerned, as he also had a history of stealing guns from area National Guard bases...no kidding.
The day of his firing, I ducked into the supervisor's office to ask a quick question, where our Sup, a nice guy named Darren was going through his paperwork.
When Darren leaned forward to get a piece of paperwork out of his desk drawer, I spotted the butt of what looked like a K-frame in an IWB rig, which certainly was against written company policy.
He saw me noticing it, expecting quite a different response than what I gave him: "Darren, don't worry. I won't tell anyone, and I'm just glad that you said to hell with company policy by looking out for all of us."
Fortunately, Darren never needed to to deploy it, but the fired guy showed up during a different shift than ours and had a shouting match that necessitated him being escorted out of the building by the local PD.
I'm just glad that Darren was looking out for us, rules be damned.
We had one guy of questionable mental stability working as a material handler, who (he never served) freely and openly talked about his time in the military to me, even though I could figure out right away (I am a Navy veteran) that he was talking bull****.
I just nodded and acted as if I believed him, all the better to avoid irritating him.
One day, he got himself fired, and all of us in the plant were more than a little concerned, as he also had a history of stealing guns from area National Guard bases...no kidding.
The day of his firing, I ducked into the supervisor's office to ask a quick question, where our Sup, a nice guy named Darren was going through his paperwork.
When Darren leaned forward to get a piece of paperwork out of his desk drawer, I spotted the butt of what looked like a K-frame in an IWB rig, which certainly was against written company policy.
He saw me noticing it, expecting quite a different response than what I gave him: "Darren, don't worry. I won't tell anyone, and I'm just glad that you said to hell with company policy by looking out for all of us."
Fortunately, Darren never needed to to deploy it, but the fired guy showed up during a different shift than ours and had a shouting match that necessitated him being escorted out of the building by the local PD.
I'm just glad that Darren was looking out for us, rules be damned.
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Unfortunately thats the exact reason why I hated dealing with local PD/SO during my time managing corporate security...Everyone forgets that Police are reactionary in nature/purpose.... they're main objective is respond to/and document crime. "Sometimes there's justice.... sometimes there's just us".
I wish I didn't have to say it.... I am not anti-law enforcement, just merely adding my .02.
