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  1. #31
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    Too many close calls.
    Best way to be safe is avoid people.
    Most dangerous?
    The ones that supposedly have been trained.

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    When I first read the article I linked to, with all the passive voice, I had some doubt as to whether the deceased dropped the shotgun or what, so I looked through as many articles as I could. Most of them simply say "discharged" or similar. On the theory that the news sources closest to the event might have better info, I specifically looked for South African sources. Some of them were in Afrikaans, which I don't read, but I found two in English that say the shotgun "fell" while it was being "displayed as evidence." This implies that possibly no one had their hands on it, it may have been on a table or some kind of stand when it fell for some reason (somebody bumped the stand?) and the prosecutor was on the wrong end of it going off.

    https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2019-11-19-kwazulu-natal-prosecutor-dies-in-freak-accident-when-gun-goes-off-in-court/
    https://www.dispatchlive.co.za/news/...-off-in-court/


    This does not excuse anyone of anything of course, it should never have brought into court loaded in the first place, and even then it should not have been "displayed" in a manner that allowed this to happen. Kirk's right in that "treating every gun as if it is loaded" subsumes verifying its actual status. And then still treating it as loaded. Someone seized the shotgun in the first place, someone held it for the trial, someone transported it into the courtroom, someone put it on display (the prosecutor herself? the bailiff?). Apparently none of them treated it as a loaded gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Freeman View Post
    Everyone knows the solution is to yell "eet ain't loaded" with your upper front teeth over your bottom lip when some boring safety nanny tells you that ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED.
    "Hey son!!! Watch where that BB gun is pointed..."

    "Sorry dad.."

    "Remember boy...A gun's always loaded even when it ain't...Got it?"

    "Yes sir.."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alamo View Post
    ...Apparently none of them treated it as a loaded gun.
    Or, perhaps they all treated it as if it were loaded, but none of them actually unloaded it as the 3rd fundamental NRA rule for safe gun handling clearly directs:

    https://gunsafetyrules.nra.org/

    That shotgun certainly wasn't in any sort of use requiring that it remain in that loaded state.

    The last thing we need is more rules, rather a focus on the fundamentals is ALWAYS in order.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ATM View Post
    Or, perhaps they all treated it as if it were loaded, but none of them actually unloaded it as the 3rd fundamental NRA rule for safe gun handling clearly directs:

    https://gunsafetyrules.nra.org/

    That shotgun certainly wasn't in any sort of use requiring that it remain in that loaded state.

    The last thing we need is more rules, rather a focus on the fundamentals is ALWAYS in order.
    Bingo.....again.

    I see all opinions have pertinence in these issues. Kirk is adamant as he has seen 1st hand the end result of the stupidity that can all too often be the casual gun handler.
    ATM has spent more time in a training/teaching capacity than I can even measure.
    CBH is as adamant in his 2A pursuits as anyone I know.
    Just to touch on a few.

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