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    Cop did nothing wrong. Thief is to blame, not the officer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Freeman View Post
    Cop did nothing wrong. Thief is to blame, not the officer.
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    I wonder how the weapon was secured in the car? Unless you knew, you'd be completely lost on how to pull an rifle out of CPD car.
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    Guy was discussing this on FaceBook. A few things he pointed out. The car could have been broken into or access gained through other means. (Coat hanger though the window to hit the unlock bottom.)

    It was a select fire weapon. A magazine and a single round were found nearby.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KJQ6945 View Post
    You must be new around here. Welcome to INGO.
    No, I think he's right. Any time someone points out anything that could have been done to reduce the chances of being a crime victim, that is "victim blaming". Victim blaming is forbidden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kutnupe14 View Post
    I wonder how the weapon was secured in the car? Unless you knew, you'd be completely lost on how to pull an rifle out of CPD car.
    What would make getting a rifle out of a CPD car any more difficult than any other police car? Do they have some fancier gun mount with some special swipe card access panel or something?
    Back before the MCSD/IPD merger in 2007, we had inmate workers at the garage washing cars. Even they knew how to open the overhead shotgun racks. Both by bypassing the electric switch and using the key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kutnupe14 View Post
    I wonder how the weapon was secured in the car? Unless you knew, you'd be completely lost on how to pull an rifle out of CPD car.
    The Department's own report stated the weapon was "unsecured", whatever that means. I could understand them not wanting to give further details so as not to educate would-be thieves.

    Any way you slice it, a fail nonetheless unless the thief broke into the car and/or defeated additional security measures and devices.
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    Wonder if there is a record of radio transmissions from Martinsville/Morgan Co on this?

    I happened to catch a bit of a radio transmission on the scanner app. I could certainly be mistaken, but I think I heard a reference to a search for a weapon that was "lost from a Martinsville unit."

    Maybe I heard it wrong. Maybe interpreted the phrase wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Freeman View Post
    Cop did nothing wrong. Thief is to blame, not the officer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoughMade View Post
    No, I think he's right. Any time someone points out anything that could have been done to reduce the chances of being a crime victim, that is "victim blaming". Victim blaming is forbidden.
    I agree completely, but soon, there will be people calling for the officer to be fired, or beheaded.

    Thieves are dirtbags. Stealing is wrong. The officer might have violated a department policy, or maybe not, doesn't really matter to me. Somebody knowingly and intentionally took something that didn't belong to them. That's a violation of the law, the Ten Commandments, and just plain old fashioned human decency. Let's see who gets in more trouble.


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