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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ggreen View Post
    You are starting out with the wrong mindset. The mini is an inferior semi auto across the board. They are poor rifles for building skill because they are not capable of maintaining accuracy and reliability. Flame on, but I've yet to see a mini shoot better than 2moa in person.

    Garands are neat, but mostly irrelevant in practical terms. I wont discount the cool factor and you will learn real skills laying behind one. It's an expensive path.

    Keep working that 1022. Paint your steel white and put a 1x1 piece of tape in the center to give you a group reference.

    And definitely take a Revere's Riders course.
    I don't have much to add except I agree on the Mini-14 comment. While fun to shoot, best I could ever manage out of mine at the 100 yard range was minute of pie plate accuracy.
    Did I say very fun? Yes, they are a blast to shoot 2 liter bottle with and they look pretty cool. A-Team approved.

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    Yet another vote for the Revere's 2 day course. Use the 10/22 you already have. It's a crazy bargain and a great time.

    8x8 steel at 100 with factory Ruger irons is indeed difficult. Painting it a high contrast color different than the sights and background can help, as can adding a small square of tape to the center as a reference, or having some kind of framing objects around it that you can center the sight post between. Seeing the target at distance can be as challenging as shooting it. But most of the progress to be made is still in developing trigger control and learning how to build stable shooting positions.

    All this coming from a chronically challenged rifle shooter...

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    Agreed, factory 10/22 iron sights are difficult to adjust and use for accurate rifle shooting ... not impossible, just difficult. If the OP wants to continue with iron sights, they will be better off installing Tech Sights. To my way of thinking (and shooting), the TRS200 is the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJ Kackowski View Post
    Agreed, factory 10/22 iron sights are difficult to adjust and use for accurate rifle shooting ... not impossible, just difficult. If the OP wants to continue with iron sights, they will be better off installing Tech Sights. To my way of thinking (and shooting), the TRS200 is the way to go.
    I don't have a 10/22, but +1 on the Tech Sights. I have them on my AK and my SKS. Big improvement on those rifles since they nearly double the sight radius and the rear peep sight is much better than open irons IMHO.

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    Ringing steel is fun, but how do you really know what your groupings look like, my thoughts are shoot paper and see what your bullets are actually doing and what you may be doing right or wrong!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJ Kackowski View Post
    Agreed, factory 10/22 iron sights are difficult to adjust and use for accurate rifle shooting ... not impossible, just difficult. If the OP wants to continue with iron sights, they will be better off installing Tech Sights. To my way of thinking (and shooting), the TRS200 is the way to go.
    Yep, and they duplicate the sight picture of every US service rifle for the past 120 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ark View Post
    Yep, and they duplicate the sight picture of every US service rifle for the past 120 years.
    10-4 ... now, if the OP will attend a Revere's Riders basic rifle class they will learn to shoot that 10/22 like every US service rifle for the past 120 years.

    You won't miss that 8" steel plate (even out to 200 yds) after attending a RR course (unless you intended to miss the steel plate!) because they teach you to shoot 4 MOA. After you learn the basics, then you hook up with nate and the boys from CIHPRS and learn to dial that 4 MOA down to 1 MOA or less.

  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJ Kackowski View Post
    10-4 ... now, if the OP will attend a Revere's Riders basic rifle class they will learn to shoot that 10/22 like every US service rifle for the past 120 years.

    You won't miss that 8" steel plate (even out to 200 yds) after attending a RR course (unless you intended to miss the steel plate!) because they teach you to shoot 4 MOA. After you learn the basics, then you hook up with nate and the boys from CIHPRS and learn to dial that 4 MOA down to 1 MOA or less.
    Yes sir. I got my start in highpower by attending something very similar. It laid the foundation for my competitive shooting, of which I've had a bit of success.

    It's the best class to teach you SOLID fundamentals that apply to all forms of shooting. It's money very well spent.

    I'm about to go apply these fundamentals to a 50 round across the course match this afternoon. CIHPRS matches are back on!

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    I'd bench that 10/22 and test a couple diff ammo types.
    And ditto on a smaller aiming point on the steel.
    Young eyes, 100 w irons should be good.
    I liked the factory sights when I was a kid.

    Add a buffer and a Volq hammer and maybe have something decent.

    See a lot of folks shooting steel, it's the new thing I guess. But I bet a lot of the folks I've seen at the club, never really tested their gear to see what they had.
    Was just "good enough to make pings".

    Hey as long as theyre having fun.......but they (new shooters) really don't seem to want to push themselves to be better shots.

    Casual observation. Obviously some differ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ggreen View Post
    You are starting out with the wrong mindset. The mini is an inferior semi auto across the board. They are poor rifles for building skill because they are not capable of maintaining accuracy and reliability. Flame on, but I've yet to see a mini shoot better than 2moa in person.
    Garands are neat, but mostly irrelevant in practical terms. I wont discount the cool factor and you will learn real skills laying behind one. It's an expensive path.
    Keep working that 1022. Paint your steel white and put a 1x1 piece of tape in the center to give you a group reference.

    And definitely take a Revere's Riders course.
    (BOLD added above: mine/doddg)


    That would explain alot about my rifle shooting skills (or lack thereof).
    The Revere's Riders course is 2 DAYS!
    I can't even clean the garage for 30 minutes w/o sitting down resting my back.
    When I go to the range, I usually do 2 hours, maybe 3, but I'm using a stool the entire time.
    This is one of the reasons why I wanted to do handgun steel matches, since I could do my cycle of shooting, then sit down & watch, especially if shooting only 1 gun.

    I saw this online:
    Rifle Programs | Revere's Riders

    First Steps Rifle ( Day)

    Rifle 125: Basic Rifle (One or Two Day)


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