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  • Katana1

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    Has the proverbial SHTF yet, why or why not?

    If it has not, how will you know when it happens?

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    rhrlaw

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    Realistically, it's going to get worse before it gets better. If Dems get the WH and the Senate, prepare for four years of the needle moving left and watching the far left make moves to eliminate the center-left. The next term also seats anywhere from 2 to 4 justices, and with Roberts and now Gorsch being unreliable, a 2024 return by Republicans still won't do much. To be clear, even the 2024 return isn't exactly likely since Democrats will really push hard to restore voting rights to felons, possibly let the incarcerated vote, paper up as many illegals as possible, and of course push for mail in ballots left and right.
     

    cosermann

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    Impossible to say without a definition for shtf. Some such events are obvious and sudden (i.e hurricanes, earthquakes, etc.). Sometimes a descent into shtf conditions (whatever those are) is more gradual the recognition of which is clouded by normalcy bias, optimism bias, denial, etc.
     

    Butch627

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    Most of the people I know who actually live in Chicago are pretty unconcerned about all that is taking place there.
     

    Tombs

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    We'll never get the STHF moment that people dream about.

    There will always be enforcement of laws, even with your house is being burned down by a mob of thousands. They will still arrest you and confiscate your firearms even when they refuse to protect you.

    It'll always be this slow boil, because people fear legal ramifications more than the risk of personal injury.
     

    Mongo59

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    If the original question is: Is this as stupid as people can get? Then I fear the answer is: Sorry, you ain't seen nuttin' yet...
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    So, we are discussing CHICAGO in an INDIANA gun forum? Well, OK, it is INGO.

    Short answer, no. Look at the crime numbers in Chicago in the early '90s or 70s, etc. The turmoil in Chicago is: 1. confined to certain nieghborhoods without political influence. 2. are a fraction of what they used to be.
     

    Thor

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    Could be anywhere
    it's quiet outside, no smoke in the air. The fan appears not to be even running at Schloss Thor let alone excrement being tossed its way.

    In some of the democRat run **** holes they may already be out of excrement. The SHTF quotient seems to be very geographically and politically sensitive at this time.

    It's almost like elections have consequences.
     

    BrettonJudy7

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    Chicago is Chicago. Let's leave that city be. Let them continue to burn their own city to the ground and blame Indiana for violence. It's amusing to watch other states mistakes and misfortunes, but we have an issue in our home state right now...

    What we should be considering is the rising crime rate in our own state capitol. As the article says, we are on pace for our most violent year in the cities history. Shootings on the canal, gang violence. drug issues etc.
    Mayor Hogsett is a failure.

    https://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/crime/putting-a-stop-to-violence-in-indianapolis
     

    2A_Tom

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    Impossible to say without a definition for shtf. Some such events are obvious and sudden (i.e hurricanes, earthquakes, etc.). Sometimes a descent into shtf conditions (whatever those are) is more gradual the recognition of which is clouded by normalcy bias, optimism bias, denial, etc.


    When your fire base is being over run.
     
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