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    Has the SHTF yet?

    Has the proverbial SHTF yet, why or why not?

    If it has not, how will you know when it happens?

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    I still care....Really
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    Lets put this in perspective peoples.
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    Realistically, it's going to get worse before it gets better. If Dems get the WH and the Senate, prepare for four years of the needle moving left and watching the far left make moves to eliminate the center-left. The next term also seats anywhere from 2 to 4 justices, and with Roberts and now Gorsch being unreliable, a 2024 return by Republicans still won't do much. To be clear, even the 2024 return isn't exactly likely since Democrats will really push hard to restore voting rights to felons, possibly let the incarcerated vote, paper up as many illegals as possible, and of course push for mail in ballots left and right.

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    Impossible to say without a definition for shtf. Some such events are obvious and sudden (i.e hurricanes, earthquakes, etc.). Sometimes a descent into shtf conditions (whatever those are) is more gradual the recognition of which is clouded by normalcy bias, optimism bias, denial, etc.
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    Plinker J Galt's Avatar

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    If you have to ask, then it has not.

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    Most of the people I know who actually live in Chicago are pretty unconcerned about all that is taking place there.

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    We'll never get the STHF moment that people dream about.

    There will always be enforcement of laws, even with your house is being burned down by a mob of thousands. They will still arrest you and confiscate your firearms even when they refuse to protect you.

    It'll always be this slow boil, because people fear legal ramifications more than the risk of personal injury.
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    Plinker chevyguy's Avatar

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    So no driving around in old V-8 Interceptors? hqdefault.jpg
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    Plinker

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    Wait till they riot if Our president is re-elected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chevyguy View Post
    So no driving around in old V-8 Interceptors? hqdefault.jpg
    Correction.....the "Last V-8"

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