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Thread: Rittenhouse Defense Releases New Video That Clearly Proves Self Defense

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    Quote Originally Posted by churchmouse View Post
    He did not bring the rifle with him. He got it from a friend close by where this happened.
    Tell you what......get me in a heated situation that has me on full tilt and lunge your butt at me. See what happens. Seriously man you really do not get it.
    He was being shot at, assailed assaulted and shot at some more. Holy mother of god people.

    Yes this really twists me up.
    I'm speaking from a legal perspective. Also this doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how you feel.\

    The charge is for possession of a deadly weapon under the age of 18. If that charge holds he's in trouble. Everything else out the window he can't claim self-defense with a weapon he has illegally. This would be a different story if he was in his home and shot a home invader, but that was not the case. He came here with a purpose, to patrol the streets acting like an enforcer / protector. This was a very bad decision. If you have children you have to agree that this is insane. I would 10000000x never let my teenage child show up to a riot with a firearm.

    Once again, it doesn't matter how you feel, it's about the law. Unless he can get out of the possession of a deadly weapon charge he's screwed. Akin to claiming self-defense when you're robbing a store when the owner pulls a gun on you. You were already committing a crime and you can't claim self-defense. Obviously not the same thing but same principle and this will be a major factor the prosecution will highlight.

    If I were a betting man I'd venture to guess that he will not get off clean with this. I would say he'll take a guilty plea bargain and he might get a bargain sentence since he's not 18.

    I'm stating the facts here not my feelings. We will see how it plays out, but I don't think it looks good for him.

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    Felt like a little Marty Robbins again....


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    I hope the Kenosha Kid has some leather left on the bottom of those boots, because he is going to be walking before too long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Freeman View Post
    Incorrect, this is called Necessity under Indiana law...
    Found this about the Wisconsin law...

    Wisconsin law provides the following description of the necessity defense in a Wisconsin criminal case:


    939.47. Necessity


    Pressure of natural physical forces which causes the actor reasonably to believe that his or her act is the only means of preventing imminent public disaster, or imminent death or great bodily harm to the actor or another and which causes him or her so to act, is a defense to a prosecution for any crime based on that act, except that if the prosecution is for first-degree intentional homicide, the degree of the crime is reduced to 2nd-degree intentional homicide.
    Did the prosecutor charge him with first-degree intentional homicide to negate this defense?
    Necessity is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.

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    A mob was chasing him after he extinguished a dumpster fire. Thatís some Bond Villain level of premeditation right there
    INGOer #25,448

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajeandy View Post
    Correct me if Iím wrong, donít believe I am, but he, 17, bright a rifle across state limes and was basically there for the ďevent.Ē

    Iím almost positive that alone screws his defense. Thatís before considering he killed someone who ďlungedĒ at him. If he has the weapon illegally he canít claim self defense from my understanding of the law. Heís also not a police officer. A cop can shoot someone who is trying to take their gun, much harder for a non leo to do so without a legal fight. Itís almost like the scene out of southpark ďheís coming right for us! I donít think you can legally shoot someone because you have a gun and someone lunges at you.
    As others have pointed out, you are absolutely wrong. I won't touch the part about where he got the gun. He claims a friend gave it to him and it never crossed state lines, but that may turn out to be untrue, we'll see. But the idea that one can't defend themselves during the commission of a crime is false.

    https://criminal.findlaw.com/crimina...te%20a%20crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghuns View Post
    Found this about the Wisconsin law...



    Did the prosecutor charge him with first-degree intentional homicide to negate this defense?
    I was going to mention something about him referencing Indiana law but just left it. We will see how it plays out in court. My opinion is that he will get some charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCgrease08 View Post
    As others have pointed out, you are absolutely wrong. I won't touch the part about where he got the gun. He claims a friend gave it to him and it never crossed state lines, but that may turn out to be untrue, we'll see. But the idea that one can't defend themselves during the commission of a crime is false.

    https://criminal.findlaw.com/crimina...te%20a%20crime.
    I don't think it will apply based on the video evidence of the person he shot had no weapons. Also laws are different in different states. As I said before, we'll see how it plays out. My opinion is he'll plea something out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajeandy View Post
    I don't think it will apply based on the video evidence of the person he shot had no weapons...
    Only because he was ventilated before he managed to take the kid's.
    Necessity is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.

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    This video depicts, not only the truth about Kyle Rittenhouse and the events in Kenosha, but displays the complete disregard for human life by the protestor/riotor/looters of 2020!
    Kyle Rittenhouse has every right to defend himself against aggressive and violent attackers as displayed in this video!
    If the protestor/riotor/looter people showed more respect for other people and their property, I might be inclined to even listen to their complaints...but their very behavior precludes that response!
    Stupid should hurt!!! ~ Amishman44

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