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Thread: Rittenhouse Defense Releases New Video That Clearly Proves Self Defense

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    Quote Originally Posted by 88E30M50 View Post
    ...If one of these people asked that I help them protect their livelihood from a mob, it would be a tough decision to make. On one hand, thereís the ĎItís not my property, so why should I risk anything in defense of ití mindset thatís pretty common here. On the other hand, thereís the idea of standing up for friends and whatís right. I donít know how I would decide but I really hope that none of the small business owning friends I have are ever put into the place to make a plea to friends to help them protect their livelihood.

    I donít know what was going through this kids mind when he agreed to help protect a business that was not his but my guess that it was thought to be a case of making that particular business look like something better left be. I cannot imagine who thought it a good idea to ask that of a 17 year old kid. He was not trained for that situation and itís costing him dearly.
    I don't know how old you are, but at 47, I have MUCH more to lose than I did at 17.

    It would not have taken much to get me to show up to protect a friend's livelihood when I was 17.

    Today, they'd have be really close friends who I basically count as family members before I'd put my butt on the line for them.

    17 year olds have a much different relationship with risk and consequences than us old farts.

    It's one of the reasons why military recruiters target teenagers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghuns View Post
    I don't know how old you are, but at 47, I have MUCH more to lose than I did at 17.

    It would not have taken much to get me to show up to protect a friend's livelihood when I was 17.

    Today, they'd have be really close friends who I basically count as family members before I'd put my butt on the line for them.

    17 year olds have a much different relationship with risk and consequences than us old farts.

    It's one of the reasons why military recruiters target teenagers.
    At my time on life's path I am not leaving my family or property. Like you said, way too much to loose and there is not enough time or energy to replace/rebuild.

    Now as to family members....that might take on a different level of intensity. Leave my peoples alone. None of them (or friends I would help defend) have businesses. So that is a dilemma we are spared.
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    Yes, Kyle was/is 17.

    No, receiving a rifle or committing a crime doesn't exclude you from self-defense UNLESS you committed a felony resulting in your self-defense claim. Receiving the rifle from person living in WI isn't a felony nor did is precipitate the self-defense.

    Even if one was to be believed that Kyle caused the incident in order to claim self-defense, the fact that he was retreating and NOT the current aggressor allows him to claim self-defense.

    The individual lunging at him has neither the right nor the legal protection for either a) lunging at him (assault) nor trying to relieve him of his weapon when there was no prior bad act to allow anyone to do so (ie: he had just robbed the store or threatened to shoot someone)
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    I am 50 and I would be more than willing to defend strangers in my community in the spirit of the militia. If no one is willing to stand and fight for our family, friends, and our way of life then you might as well just give up your guns to the inevitable mob of socialists trying to tear down our communities. Whatever his motivations were he came to help fight an evil the politicians refuse to acknowledge. Even the police are reluctant to act for fear of losing their jobs. If this crap comes to my town or neighboring cities and they called for help I wouldnít hesitate to show up. If left unchecked you may not have your guns to defend your families with.
    "Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way."

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