Example of what happens with illegal aliens

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  • model67a

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    This was taken from a "comment"s section and really explains what happens with illegal aliens.

    It is something you expected, but read it to let it really sink in. It addresses the inequity that exists between capitalism and socialism in co-existence.

    JOE LEGAL vs. J ILLEGAL

    You have two families: "Joe Legal" and "JOSE Illegal".

    Both families have two parents, two children, and live in California .

    Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.

    J Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".

    Ready? Now pay attention...

    Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has
    $31,231.00.

    J ILLEGAL: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200.0 0 per year. John Illegal pays no taxes. John Illegal now has
    $31,200.00.

    Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now
    has $24,031.00.

    J ILLEGAL has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. John Illegal still has $31,200.00.

    Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per
    year.. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.

    J ILLEGAL has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps and welfare. John Illegal still has $31,200.00.

    John Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $9,631 .00.

    J ILLEGAL receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. John Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. John Illegal still has $ 31,200.00.

    Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for insurance. Joe Legal now has $7,231.00.

    J ILLEGAL says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00.

    Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.

    J ILLEGAL has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month..

    Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.

    J ILLEGAL has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

    Joe Legal's and J ILLEGAL 's children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while J ILLEGAL 's
    children get a government sponsored lunch. J Illegal's children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home.

    Joe Legal and J ILLEGAL both enjoy the same police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and J did NOT pay.

    Do you get it.................. now?

    GO ARIZONA

    Don't vote for or support any politician that supports illegal aliens...

    It's way PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans!
     

    IndySSD

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    my thoughts exactly... you're getting within range of the banhammer.


    Why the hell would someone get Banned for posting a breakdown for how Illegals vs. Taxpayers works?

    People need to WAKE UP and realize that illegals hurt the middle and lower classes. Those people need to pressure their representatives to support/pass legislature that punishes illegals and those who facilitate them.

    Why is this a notion that even begins to invoke "Ban talk".
     

    geronimojoe85

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    Why the hell would someone get Banned for posting a breakdown for how Illegals vs. Taxpayers works?

    People need to WAKE UP and realize that illegals hurt the middle and lower classes. Those people need to pressure their representatives to support/pass legislature that punishes illegals and those who facilitate them.

    Why is this a notion that even begins to invoke "Ban talk".
    Hey, that's a good way to get banned there buddy.
     

    Fletch

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    Support the politicians who are making a stand and tell our current politicians to GTFO if they don't.....
    That's the problem. Very few politicians are making the stand that needs to be made: getting the government off the backs of American workers. The travesty in the story above is the theft by taxation, not what is done with the proceeds. It doesn't matter to me whether a politician uses my tax dollars to build an orphanage or a whorehouse -- by the time of the building, the crime has already been committed.
     

    IndySSD

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    Hey, that's a good way to get banned there buddy.


    :cool:

    Yeah, I am saddened to see that INGO members think that posting the idea of voting out politicians who support illegals is a bannable offense.

    If Fenway, Que, ESRice, VUPDBlue or BillOfRights thinks that me saying "Don't vote for politicians who support illegal immigrants" is a bannable offense then I'll know it's time for me to move on.......

    For the record, I don't think any of those folks would do so.....
     

    NYFelon

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    Not really. I oppose illegal immigration from anywhere. I'm not just opposed to Mexican illegal immigration. People make the mistake that we only have Latin American illegal immigtants, which is not the case. They may be the majority of illegals, but only because we share a land border, so it is easier for them to get here. Come to Queens, NY, and be AMAZED how many oriental illegal immigrants there are.

    In summation: I don't care whether an illegal immigrant is from Mexico, China, Ireland, or Istanbul, they all need to be sent home. It's just easier to focus on the Latin American ones, because they are easier to spot.

    :twocents:
     

    edporch

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    We talk about Joe LEGAL vs Joe ILLEGAL, and how we're should not support any politician who supports illegal immigration.

    YET, how many of us support businesses who hire Joe ILLEGAL because we can get a cheap price for the service they perform for using illegal immigrants?

    Sure, it sometimes takes extra effort to find honest businesses who follow the law, and it sometimes costs us more.


    In my own case, I own some commercial property that I rent out.
    One of my stipulations is "no illegal activity, which includes the hiring of illegal immigrants from ANY country or ethnicity".

    I've had potential tenants who say they don't hire illegals verbally, yet when it comes time to sign a lease that stipulates that, they back out.

    I'd rather have my properties sit vacant rather than be rented by tenants who exploit illegal immigrants and us, the taxpayer.
     

    chefnick7

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    I think your post is right on. Some people might not want to admit it but millions of Asians are not coming thru the southern border. They come on tourist visas or student visas and over extend. Thats the gov not enforcing our visa policy. When you have the majority of some states now being Hispanic and millions of illegals known to come here and not pay taxes thats an insult to those that immigrated here legally. Ny has always been a melting pot and many there came here legally and over stayed.
     

    gunman41mag

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    So many offenses out there that can get us jailed and we cannot even jail or get rid of illegal immigrants who by their very existence are breaking the law.

    It's ok to break the LAW if you weren't born here, Look at the law breaking president with the fake birth certificate;)
     

    jeremy

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    We talk about Joe LEGAL vs Joe ILLEGAL, and how we're should not support any politician who supports illegal immigration.

    YET, how many of us support businesses who hire Joe ILLEGAL because we can get a cheap price for the service they perform for using illegal immigrants?

    Sure, it sometimes takes extra effort to find honest businesses who follow the law, and it sometimes costs us more.


    In my own case, I own some commercial property that I rent out.
    One of my stipulations is "no illegal activity, which includes the hiring of illegal immigrants from ANY country or ethnicity".

    I've had potential tenants who say they don't hire illegals verbally, yet when it comes time to sign a lease that stipulates that, they back out.

    I'd rather have my properties sit vacant rather than be rented by tenants who exploit illegal immigrants and us, the taxpayer.

    Actually, I refuse to do business with a Company or Person that I know hires Illegal Immigrants. :dunno:
     

    Lancem

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    Sorry OP but too many of your "facts" are incorrect... This is an old story and incorrect in so many ways... Sure makes you feel good when you are bashing the "illegals", but like so many other "comments" are based on hearsay and rumor...

    Personally when ever I see something like this I replace the word illegal with "Jew" or "Black", if it then sounds like something spewed by the Nazis or some racist then guess what... it is... Just my :twocents:
     

    Garb

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    Sorry OP but too many of your "facts" are incorrect... This is an old story and incorrect in so many ways... Sure makes you feel good when you are bashing the "illegals", but like so many other "comments" are based on hearsay and rumor...

    Personally when ever I see something like this I replace the word illegal with "Jew" or "Black", if it then sounds like something spewed by the Nazis or some racist then guess what... it is... Just my :twocents:

    Huh? :scratch: I disagree with the Arizona law, but this is farfetched. Agreeing with the Arizona law does not make someone a racist by any means.
     
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