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    Police report from the night of the incident:

    George Zimmerman Arrest Report | Weer'd World

    It is becoming clear that Zimmerman was getting his teeth handed to him, cried out of help and when none came, fearing for serious bodily injury, he shot to stop the threat.

    When/if this comes out at the grand jury, the Media just might get the chaos that they are trying to initiate.
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    If Zimmerman was attempting to illegally detain Martin at the time of the shooting can Zimmerman still claim self defense since he was in the act of commiting a crime against Martin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Freeman View Post
    Police report from the night of the incident:

    George Zimmerman Arrest Report | Weer'd World

    It is becoming clear that Zimmerman was getting his teeth handed to him, cried out of help and when none came, fearing for serious bodily injury, he shot to stop the threat.

    When/if this comes out at the grand jury, the Media just might get the chaos that they are trying to initiate.
    Since Reverend Al is involved heavily at this point, do we know if there was anything written on the decedents torso?

  4. #264
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    I now know how I can plan a murder and get away Scott free. I'll run my mouth to him, let him pummel me a little bit, pull my gun and then shoot him. It was self defense.

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    This is a local jurisdiction case and the President of the United States is making prejudiced statements on national television?

    There is an election on November 6th. This loser of unprecedented proportions must go.

    As to the case in Florida, it's clear that the media (sadly, including Fox) has no interest in the rule of law or presenting factual information. There is a feeding frenzy now, creating a sensationalized money-maker of a black teen (the picture of the kid that is constantly circulated in the media is 4 years old.....his recent images with friends tells quite a different story) who was viciously attacked by a "White Hispanic." Why does the media keep implying that Zimmerman had a police record past but absolutely refuses to mention that the kid was visiting the community BECAUSE HE WAS CURRENTLY SUSPENDED FROM HIS SCHOOL. They only report what will help pour gasoline on the fire and suppress the rest. Barack Hussein and the media are the ones who need to be in a prison cell on this one. Zimmerman, the police chief in Sanford, the local prosecutor.....all risk having their lives ruined because the media and liberal activists want this "White Hispanic" lynched for killing this poor, innocent, sweet-looking black kid.

    This nonsense must stop. Zimmerman was not charged at the scene and still has not been charged. Florida law is very clear. The Feds have NO ROLE to play. This is a local matter and that's where it should stay.
    Last edited by Jake46184; 03-23-2012 at 14:06.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hornadylnl View Post
    I now know how I can plan a murder and get away Scott free. I'll run my mouth to him, let him pummel me a little bit, pull my gun and then shoot him. It was self defense.
    Your actions have to be reasonable, so if you can get a hothead to turn a verbal altercation into a blood drawing physical assault, you might have a chance of not being charged as long as various knee-jerk imbeciles, the race hucksters, anti-gun whores and vote scroungers don't make a martyr out of your attacker.
    Barack Obama: In your heart you know he's nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hornadylnl View Post
    I now know how I can plan a murder and get away Scott free. I'll run my mouth to him, let him pummel me a little bit, pull my gun and then shoot him. It was self defense.
    Quote Originally Posted by CarmelHP View Post
    Your actions have to be reasonable, so if you can get a hothead to turn a verbal altercation into a blood drawing physical assault, you might have a chance of not being charged as long as various knee-jerk imbeciles, the race hucksters, anti-gun whores and vote scroungers don't make a martyr out of your attacker.
    Of course posting his intent to do so on a public forum might hurt his argument some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    Of course posting his intent to do so on a public forum might hurt his argument some.
    That too.
    Barack Obama: In your heart you know he's nuts.

    "Of all the offspring of Time, Error is the most ancient, and is so old and familiar an acquaintance, that Truth, when discovered, comes upon most of us like an intruder, and meets the intruder's welcome." (Mackay, 1841)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoub View Post
    If you profile based on race, you probably violated a persons civil rights and screwed up because you did it based on emotion, not facts.
    I was under the impresson that a person's civil rights can only be violated by a government (fed, state, local) or biz. That is to say a STATE PARK for example can not tell me that becuase I am "black, brown, chinese, etc," I can not enter the park. By the same token a store can not tell me that becuase I am "black, brown, chinese, etc." I can not enter their store. As in both of these examples the .gov or biz are violating your civil rights.

    However if I have a party and it's open to town of abc residents at my house but when the black/brown/chinese... family comes I tell them NO you are not come in is that a violation of their rights? After all it's my property and I'm not a .gov/biz so they can't sue me right? Sure that is being racisit but on a person to person level that is not a violation of civil rights?


    Quote Originally Posted by Jake46184 View Post
    This is a local jurisdiction case and the President of the United States is making prejudiced statements on national television?

    There is an election on November 6th. This loser of unprecedented proprtions must go.

    As to the case in Florida, it's clear that the media (sadly, including Fox) has no interest in the rule of law or presenting factual information. There is a feeding frenzy now, creating a sensationalized money-maker of a black teen (the picture of the kid that is constantly circulated in the media is 4 years old.....his recent images with friends tells quite a different story) who was viciously attacked by a "White Hispanic." Why does the media keep implying that Zimmerman had a police record past but absolutely refuses to mention that the kid was visiting the community BECAUSE HE WAS CURRENTLY SUSPENDED FROM HIS SCHOOL. They only report what will help pour gasoline on the fire and suppress the rest. Barack Hussein and the media are the ones who need to be in a prison cell on this one. Zimmerman, the police chief in Sanford, the local prosecutor.....all risk having their lives ruined because the media and liberal activists want this "White Hispanic" lynched for killing this poor, innocent, sweet-looking black kid.

    This nonsense must stop. Zimmerman was not charged at the scene and still has not been charged. Florida law is very clear. The Feds have NO ROLE to play. This is a local matter and that's where it should stay.
    Does anyone have a pic of Zimmerman? How about a pic of the teenager? I did not know the information in this post above. The pic on TV did make the kid look young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake46184 View Post
    This is a local jurisdiction case and the President of the United States is making prejudiced statements on national television?

    There is an election on November 6th. This loser of unprecedented proprtions must go.
    The president made no such prejudicial statement that I have seen. Do you have a link of a statement made by the president that would indicate creating bias concerning this case?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jake46184 View Post
    As to the case in Florida, it's clear that the media (sadly, including Fox) has no interest in the rule of law or presenting factual information. There is a feeding frenzy now, creating a sensationalized money-maker of a black teen (the picture of the kid that is constantly circulated in the media is 4 years old.....his recent images with friends tells quite a different story) who was viciously attacked by a "White Hispanic." Why does the media keep implying that Zimmerman had a police record past but absolutely refuses to mention that the kid was visiting the community BECAUSE HE WAS CURRENTLY SUSPENDED FROM HIS SCHOOL. They only report what will help pour gasoline on the fire and suppress the rest. Barack Hussein and the media are the ones who need to be in a prison cell on this one. Zimmerman, the police chief in Sanford, the local prosecutor.....all risk having their lives ruined because the media and liberal activists want this "White Hispanic" lynched for killing this poor, innocent, sweet-looking black kid.
    A police record for fighting with police is in no way comparable to Martin's suspension (which was apparently for tardiness... not fighting, cursing at teachers, not for smoking dope in the bathroom)

    Zimmerman's life should, at the very least, be ruined. The police chief and prosecutor, kinda sucks for them, but they will probably be on their way out too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jake46184 View Post
    This nonsense must stop. Zimmerman was not charged at the scene and still has not been charged. Florida law is very clear. The Feds have NO ROLE to play. This is a local matter and that's where it should stay.
    I found this interesting...

    According to state crime stats, Florida averaged 12 “justifiable homicide” deaths a year from 2000-2004. After “Stand your Ground” was passed in 2005, the number of “justifiable” deaths has almost tripled to an average of 35 a year, an increase of 283% from 2005-2010.

    Deaths Nearly Triple Since “Stand Your Ground” Enacted « CBS Miami

    Odd that a new law would have such an impact so quickly.

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