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    Adma Lanza, Sandy Hook and thing that me go hmmm

    So I'm reading this article, Newtown leader condemns professor who suggested school massacre was 'drill' | Fox News and while he may be a little “nutty” it did bring up a good point.

    “In a posting titled “The Sandy Hook Massacre: Unanswered Questions and Missing Information,” Tracy questioned how Adam Lanza was able to fire off so many shots in such little time and noted a lack of surveillance video or still images from the gruesome crime scene.”

    I don't know of a school that doesn't have security cameras if for nothing more than their own protection from lawsuits. From my reading, you had to be buzzed into the Sandy Hook school after being verified on video. I know that it is reported Adam Lanza shot his way into the school but shouldn't there still be footage of him walking towards the school with the rifle? What about once he was inside, shouldn't there be footage of him the hall with a rifle? If there was such footage of him with a rifle I would think that the gun control freaks like Fienstien, Biden, Obama, CNN, MSNBC, the Brady Bunch and all the others would have plaster those pictures everywhere to move their agenda forward. What better way to gather support than to show the mad man coming towards the school with gun in hand? Now if he only had handguns he could have approached much more easily with out raising too much suspicion. I don't know if Adam Lanza had a rifle or not but I do know I haven't seen a picture or video of him with one near Sandy Hook nor do I know anyone who has.

    One other thing I wonder about, if someone shoots to enter a school building would you think the first thing the administration and teachers would do is lock down the class rooms? The schools I'm familiar with have safety glass in the doors and steel frames. I would think it would take a few shots to get in by that method so unless the school is sound proof why weren't the classrooms on lock down once they saw and heard what was going on?

    Just a couple of thoughts that made me go hmm today.

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    If there is video footage, I doubt it would be released to the media. That would be the worst thing they could do.
    Always question the source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsigos View Post
    If there is video footage, I doubt it would be released to the media. That would be the worst thing they could do.
    I guess I should have made it a bit more clear. Not footage of the shooting or the aftermath but of Lanza approaching the school, walking down a hallway or in the lobby before the shootings. Just asking did he have a rifle or not? A picture or video of him approaching the school would settle the question and the anti's something to really show the public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    I guess I should have made it a bit more clear. Not footage of the shooting or the aftermath but of Lanza approaching the school, walking down a hallway or in the lobby before the shootings. Just asking did he have a rifle or not? A picture or video of him approaching the school would settle the question and the anti's something to really show the public.
    Again, if there was footage of him in the school lot...it's evidence and it's not being released yet. The video is school 's property and they can decide to release it or not.
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    Apparently you can listen to recordings of police communications on the day of the shooting. According to a person who has listened to the recordings:

    "At 4:00 mins into the 5th tape (~2 hrs. 15 min. since shooting called over radio), an officer states “They (HQ) were inquiring about video camera’s at the Sandy Hook School. There are no video camera’s that record; the only video camera’s are to let people in…which does not record…”"

    Sandy Hook: The Connecticut Shooting | It Was Only A Dream
    Always question the source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    So I'm reading this article, Newtown leader condemns professor who suggested school massacre was 'drill' | Fox News and while he may be a little “nutty” it did bring up a good point.

    One other thing I wonder about, if someone shoots to enter a school building would you think the first thing the administration and teachers would do is lock down the class rooms? The schools I'm familiar with have safety glass in the doors and steel frames. I would think it would take a few shots to get in by that method so unless the school is sound proof why weren't the classrooms on lock down once they saw and heard what was going on?

    Just a couple of thoughts that made me go hmm today.
    well i'd say you're correct about the front door and being able to enter the building.
    but given what little information we have on the RIGHT story does indeed lead to alot of "hmmm's" but peronally I feel the exact opposite. Do not lock the children in the class rooms, any school I have been in has crappy wooden doors with windows in them.. this would just make for easier execution of his plan. I think they chould have evacuated half the building/ or atleast relocated the children (somewhere) in the time it took him to get through the main doors. so many different methods and stories told it's hard to sit back and evaluate this situation.
    However the bottom line is the school faculty wasn't doing their job correctly and the school simply lacked security.
    not really another way to put it.

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    Those of you (like this dipstick "professor") that are suggesting it wasn't real need to go talk to a real live person who lost their child that day. Try telling THEM it's not real.

    Bunch of freaking insensitive piles of human debris....

    Some of these conspiracy nuthatches (INCLUDING here on INGO) need to pull their head out of their rectum and remember that there are VERY REAL people involved who lost VERY REAL kids.

    Some days I'm ashamed of this place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmedProgrammer View Post
    Those of you (like this dipstick "professor") that are suggesting it wasn't real need to go talk to a real live person who lost their child that day. Try telling THEM it's not real.

    Bunch of freaking insensitive piles of human debris....

    Some of these conspiracy nuthatches (INCLUDING here on INGO) need to pull their head out of their rectum and remember that there are VERY REAL people involved who lost VERY REAL kids.

    Some days I'm ashamed of this place.
    No one said it wasn't real. The question I posed was did he have an "evil black rifle"? A pic of him approaching the school with one or in the hallway would answer that question. First you have it was committed with 2 handguns, then with a rifle and yet another news station after that stating it was 4 handguns and no rifle was involved.

    I'm just curious if a rifle was involved or not. How the whole tragic event actually occurred makes more sense if he just had handguns. Easier to approach the building without raising alarms, buzzed in by staff because he looked non-threatening, (shooting through the front door shouldn't have been easy to do quickly). If he did shoot his way in a handgun makes less noise than a rifle so class rooms further in the building may not have heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsigos View Post
    Apparently you can listen to recordings of police communications on the day of the shooting. According to a person who has listened to the recordings:

    "At 4:00 mins into the 5th tape (~2 hrs. 15 min. since shooting called over radio), an officer states “They (HQ) were inquiring about video camera’s at the Sandy Hook School. There are no video camera’s that record; the only video camera’s are to let people in…which does not record…”"

    Sandy Hook: The Connecticut Shooting | It Was Only A Dream
    Thanks, that answers why there isn't a video or picture of him with a rifle approaching the building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    No one said it wasn't real. The question I posed was did he have an "evil black rifle"? A pic of him approaching the school with one or in the hallway would answer that question. First you have it was committed with 2 handguns, then with a rifle and yet another news station after that stating it was 4 handguns and no rifle was involved.

    I'm just curious if a rifle was involved or not. How the whole tragic event actually occurred makes more sense if he just had handguns. Easier to approach the building without raising alarms, buzzed in by staff because he looked non-threatening, (shooting through the front door shouldn't have been easy to do quickly). If he did shoot his way in a handgun makes less noise than a rifle so class rooms further in the building may not have heard.
    The title of the blog is: It was only a dream... If I was a parent that lost a child that day and I met the author of that blog - at a minimum the author would learn some words they hadn't heard before. Conspiracy theorists need to remember from time to time that the things that they are questioning are ALL TOO REAL to some folks. This isn't a freaking game. How would you feel? I'm not aiming this a you personally. But every one of the conspiracy dweebs that likes to "ask questions" and make blithe open - ended bullcrap statements needs to think a little before they speak.


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