Chitown to trash Civil Liberties again.

[2A_Tom]

I saw those on the news this evening.

Chicago Police To Begin Random Explosives Screenings At CTA Stations « CBS Chicago

On the news they said they would pick a number and search that number person boarding. You have the right to refuse but you will not be allowed to board.

They don't call it the Peoples Republic of Chicago for nothong.

 

[Drail]

Chicago is a lost cause. But this will become common in more places before long only because people are putting up with it. The TSA has been running their VIPR clown show on the highway system in several southern States for a couple of years. The only thing they have accomplished is to back up traffic real good on the highway. But there hasn't been any terrorist attacks on the highways so IT MUST BE WORKING, right? My tax dollars at work.

 

[Mr Evilwrench]

Two by two, hands of blue.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

 

[singlesix]

So how is this different than the screening at airports?

 

[Henry]

Who claimed screening at airports was ok?

 

[churchmouse]

I do not use mass transit so I really have mixed emotions about this.
If there is an explosion on a commuter train the other side will rise up in protest that not "Enough" was done to keep the sheeple safe. It is a catch 22

 

[Dosproduction]

Terrible these guys are idiots. What if the guy before the number is wearing a turban and yelling im going to blow this up will they still not search him and if so what is the point.

 

[WWalker]

Wearing a turban , that would be profiling to pick him

 

[Bluejeeper]

Wearing a turban , that would be profiling to pick him

Nope. 100% random.

Move on. Nothing to see here

 

[printcraft]

Terrible these guys are idiots. What if the guy before the number is wearing a turban and yelling im going to blow this up will they still not search him and if so what is the point.

[video=youtube;_qLie2058dI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qLie2058dI[/video]

 

[worddoer]

Two by two, hands of blue.

Rep inbound for Firefly reference. "May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one." - Mal

 

[snafu21]

Rep inbound for Firefly reference. "May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one." - Mal

I'm happy to see that I'm not the only Firefly/Serenity geek around

"Now you can luxuriate in a nice jail cell, but if your hand touches metal, I swear by my pretty floral bonnet I will end you."

~ Mal

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Science fiction references on INGO? Shocking.

For an overview of administrative searches:

The Journal of the DuPage County Bar Association

Metro Bag Searches: Inconvenient or Unconstitutional?

 

[KLB]

So the hope is that IF there is a terrorist with a bomb, that they will get lucky and pick that person as one of the 10% they screen. This is supposed to make people feel safe? If it does, those people are dumb.

 

[rambone]

For an overview of administrative searches:

The Journal of the DuPage County Bar Association

Metro Bag Searches: Inconvenient or Unconstitutional?

Administrative searches are offensive to any constitutionalist. Just read the appalling reasoning of the activist court that struck down the 4th Amendment in 1966.

The United States Supreme Court addressed administrative searches in Camara v. Municipal Court of City and County of San Francisco.35 Camara, the lessee of a ground floor of apartment building, was charged with violating the city housing code for refusing to permit warrantless inspection of his premises by municipal health and safety inspectors.36 In upholding the administrative and regulatory search, the Court held that the “primary governmental interest at stake is to prevent even the unintentional development of conditions which are hazardous to public health and safety.”37 According to the Camara Court:

[T]he only effective way to seek universal compliance with the minimum standards required by municipal codes is through routine periodic inspections of all structures. It is here that the probable cause debate is focused, for the agency’s decision to conduct an area inspection is unavoidably based on its appraisal of conditions in the area as a whole, not on its knowledge of conditions in each particular building.38

Have you decided to stop hating the constitution and reverse your support of warrantless administrative searches?

 

[Leadeye]

Sounds like the city machine just picked up a free gift of federal tax money, the chicago way.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Have you decided to stop hating the constitution and reverse your support of warrantless administrative searches?

This is INGO, I'll have to wait for a Firefly episode to tell me what is correct to think.

 

[poptab]

This is INGO, I'll have to wait for a Firefly episode to tell me what is correct to think.

Why do you hate the rule of law Kirk?

 

[2A_Tom]

So the hope is that IF there is a terrorist with a bomb, that they will get lucky and pick that person as one of the 10% they screen. This is supposed to make people feel safe? If it does, those people are dumb.

That is ten percent of the one station that they will randomly pick each day.

There are 145 train stations according to cta facts.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...pTs_Ymzml-P9lWRNw&sig2=ij3qEHAicGsncQz5Y_V4-Q

That's about 0.000689%, we'll just round that up to 0.0007%.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Why do you hate the rule of law Kirk?

Because the INGO Rule of Law is science fiction, the delusions of special little snowflakes without basis in reality.