Why Donald Trump is Bad for the Republican Party

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  • jmpupillo

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    Did anybody else hear this yet?

    Exclusive: Trump threatens third-party run | TheHill

    So, first he alienates (no pun intended) the Hispanic vote, bashes Veterans/POWs, then he insults other Republican presidential candidates, and now this?!

    At this rate, the Republican Party may as well roll out the red carpet for Hillary in 2016.

    Anyone else as frusterated with this guy as I am? :xmad:
     

    jerrob

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    Yes sir.
    This guy is no good for conservatives. He'll go off in another direction and split the conservative vote just enough to do as you posted, "roll out the red carpet for Bill's husband."
    I have nothing good to say about his political drama BS and in no way do I think he's capable of getting elected, let alone running the country.
    HE'S A DEM AT HIS CORE AND IS DOING EXACTLY WHAT IT TAKES TO KEEP ONE IN OFFICE.
     

    BugI02

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    Perot would say that the 'giant sucking sound' we hear this time around is Trump's ego sucking all the air out of the room
     

    Expat

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    The OP sort of backs up John Gibson's theory that Hillary has asked Trump to run first as a Republican then as a 3rd party. That is how Bill got elected, why not her?
     

    17 squirrel

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    It's interesting who the two biggest problems we have in America, our lack of border control and our overspending that is beyond belief, he openly states his opinions. Why aren't the other pres hopefulls as open with how to fix these problems ?
    I like him, I don't know if I will vote for him, but as of now I like him.
     
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    spec4

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    Trump is surely smart enough to know this. IMO this theory portrays him as a stooge for Clinton. With his ego would he accept this position?
     

    jmpupillo

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    I have a hard time believing the whole idea that he is just being a tool for the Clinton campaign. The guy can't be bought. He's worth $10 billion.

    There are plenty of points where I do agree with him, and I appreciate his no bull**** attitude.

    However, this is politics. In order to win you have to appeal to the masses, in order to achieve your desired ends. Mr. Trump just does not fit the bill. Meanwhile, he continues to do the GOP more harm than good.
     

    Leo

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    Perot would say that the 'giant sucking sound' we hear this time around is Trump's ego sucking all the air out of the room


    I am afraid that the same result will happen with this self serving entertainer as happen with Perot's political dirty tricks. Causing a voting block to split is more effective for the opposite party than any level of cheating could ever be.
     

    Dosproduction

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    Trump is a idiot. The republican party keeps putting forth cruddy candidates and they will lose. Mccain Romney give me a break. The republican party is destroying itself by picking democrats for there nominee. Perot would have been way better then bush or Clinton. Keep voting for the lesser of 2 evils and wonder why you have evil in charge.
     

    BugI02

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    I am afraid that the same result will happen with this self serving entertainer as happen with Perot's political dirty tricks. Causing a voting block to split is more effective for the opposite party than any level of cheating could ever be.

    Trump is a idiot. The republican party keeps putting forth cruddy candidates and they will lose. Mccain Romney give me a break. The republican party is destroying itself by picking democrats for there nominee. Perot would have been way better then bush or Clinton. Keep voting for the lesser of 2 evils and wonder why you have evil in charge.

    No argument from me. I was attempting to speak to the point that Trump's towering ego will not let him see the big picture. By being a candidate he has a soapbox that he would have difficulty buying if he was not competing. I'm sure he feels he can shape the debate about whither goest America, and to some extent he can - until the novelty wears off. i would liken it to the damage Nader did to the Democrats with his run and his unwillingness to admit the same
     

    EricG

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    At this point, Trump appears to be a shill. He hasnt expressed, in detail, any policy change ideas, he has gone after tge GOP(deservingly so) and refrains from going after Hilary.
     

    mrjarrell

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    At this point, Trump appears to be a shill. He hasnt expressed, in detail, any policy change ideas, he has gone after tge GOP(deservingly so) and refrains from going after Hilary.

    Hillary is not his opponent in the republican primary. The other 16 or so people are. It really doesn't make a lot of sense to go after the dem when your opponent is a fellow republican.
     

    jamil

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    I tend to think Trump's opinion of himself is miles higher than Hilary. Finding a delicious reason for trump to be in the race is appealing. But I just don't think it's very credible. Trump is in it for Trump. Not for Hilary. Not for Democrats.

    That doesn't mean he's not bad for the Republican. Sincere or not, he's saying things people want their candidate to say. But that tends to turn the independents off that any Republican needs to win the general election. He weakens Republican candidates credibility.
     

    Twangbanger

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    Well, I don't really want to add to the pot of kooky conspiracy theories, but...ok, hell yes I do.

    I wonder if Trump's anti-amnesty position doesn't end up helping Hillary in the long run. Groups on her side expect her to take action on Immigration - just as they expected Obama to. But it didn't happen, for very practical reasons. People assume amnesty is an unvarnished benefit to Democrats in the long term; but it might not benefit Hillary in the short term, if she loses further tranches of seats in the House and Senate because of public opposition. If Trump's pot-stirring on immigration helps poison the well and put the issue further onto the back burner, it could help Hillary avoid a sticky issue that would not normally be her #1 priority. If she lacks/loses control of Congress for her whole term in office, she'll accomplish even less than Obama did. I can definitely see her wanting this issue cleared off the deck before she arrives...so her political capital can be spent on more "grown-up" types of issues (things like Cap 'n Trade, which create a direct revenue stream for Wall Street bankers).

    Ok, foil hat off now, and carry on.
     
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    ArcadiaGP

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    If Trump had an agreement with Hillary to ensure her win by embarrassing Republicans & then running as an indie, what would he be doing differently?
     

    jmpupillo

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    I just wish he would get the picture and step aside. Unfortunately, I think his ego is so damn inflated, that may be a tall order for Mr Trump. :nuts:
     

    zippy23

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    Here's what I see. Trump telling it like it is. There needs to be a wall, the best in the world, to keep out illegals. Come here legally, great. He trashes RINO republicans. I love this, and so does everyone else. He keeps growing in popularity. Why? Simply because he sticks to what he says and doesnt apologize for it. This makes him look strong. Something the entire republican party has failed to do. I love it. When has a candidate openly said there needs to be a wall built like he said? Thats all the media has done is trash republicans for that, yet he succeeds because he aint backing down. How is he hurting the republican party? Hilary continues to decline....bernie is doing better, hes an outright wacko socialist and even a lot on the democrat side dont like hilary. Why not elect a non politician? People trash trump as egotistical....UM THAT IS EVERY SINGLE POLITICIAN THAT HASNT DONE A #$%# THING IN THEIR LIFE. Yet here is a billionaire, a smart connected successful business man, and yet we are trashing him? Yeah we need another Mccain huh? Or Graham? Romney? Get someone in there with balls and he'll win hands down. That may be the single reason obama won. He stood straight up and lied about the republicans, trash talked every single speech, and never admitted he was wrong, in fact he goes on tv regularly and even lies to his liberal pundits. Obama is doing what he wants regardless of the rest of the country. Hand it to him, no one has the balls to stand up to him. This is why trump could win. He is also forcing the issues to be talked about by the republicans. How is that hurting them? Because their policies are bad or they wont talk about it? hmmm....I just love watching these clowns in the media and the rino's, they have no idea how to handle trump, and its helping him.
     

    jmpupillo

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    This is exactly what will happen. Hillary will be our next President.

    Good Lord please don't say that :nailbite:

    If Trump had an agreement with Hillary to ensure her win by embarrassing Republicans & then running as an indie, what would he be doing differently?

    A fair argument but I still highly doubt they're associated. I think someone else on this thread put it pretty well - "Trump is in it for Trump".
     
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