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  • Kutnupe14

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    Aren't you on vacation?

    Yeah this one looks more cut and dried than Baton Rouge, not that these things are ever fully understood in the first 48hrs or so.

    No not yet, still trying to heal up. Oh BTW, we will have to do that Indy 11 thing.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Apparently, the driver informed the officer he had a firearm. The is no duty to inform. Officer is referred to as "Chinese" by girlfriend, but give how ignorant people are about such things, he's probably simply Asian.
     

    miguel

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    Yeah, but the cop didn't INTEND to kill him. He just acted in a very careless manner with his weapon.

    No reasonable attorney would prosecute that case.
     

    Hawkeye

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    Apparently, the driver informed the officer he had a firearm. The is no duty to inform. Officer is referred to as "Chinese" by girlfriend, but give how ignorant people are about such things, he's probably simply Asian.

    THere is a farily large community from some SE Asian group thereabouts. I misremember what exactly. Maybe Laotian? I doubt most of us could identify one from another, so Asian is probably a better term than Chinese. Unless hte officer was a certian Britisher from the 1800's named Gordon...
     

    BiscuitNaBasket

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    The video doesn't show jack ****. Awaiting further evidence that this was in any way a "bad shoot." Reaching for something after a officer tells you not to is what will get you shot.
     

    Hawkeye

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    The video doesn't show jack ****. Awaiting further evidence that this was in any way a "bad shoot." Reaching for something after a officer tells you not to is what will get you shot.

    Assuming that that that is what happened. Like you said, probably best to await evidence.
     

    T.Lex

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    The video doesn't show jack ****. Awaiting further evidence that this was in any way a "bad shoot." Reaching for something after a officer tells you not to is what will get you shot.

    Sometimes, reaching for something the officer asked for gets you shot, too.
     

    T.Lex

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    What are you referencing?

    First comes to mind:
    South Carolina trooper shot unarmed man, police say - CNN.com

    Next, though, there've been anecdotal situations over the years that have been troubling. This is not a "cops bad" post. Rather, a recognition that mistakes are made.

    Heck, in my time at Carmel there was a dangerous situation created when an officer's lights weren't working because of an electrical issue. He didn't know it, so when a driver didn't pull over, he thought she was evading. She finally gets to work, he pulls in behind her, gun drawn. She complied (thank God) because she spoke English, understood what the officer was asking her to do, and remained calm enough in an incredibly stressful situation to comply. A couple of those variables change, and the outcome could've been tragic.

    The whole situation sucked from start to finish.
     

    BiscuitNaBasket

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    First comes to mind:
    South Carolina trooper shot unarmed man, police say - CNN.com

    Next, though, there've been anecdotal situations over the years that have been troubling. This is not a "cops bad" post. Rather, a recognition that mistakes are made.

    Heck, in my time at Carmel there was a dangerous situation created when an officer's lights weren't working because of an electrical issue. He didn't know it, so when a driver didn't pull over, he thought she was evading. She finally gets to work, he pulls in behind her, gun drawn. She complied (thank God) because she spoke English, understood what the officer was asking her to do, and remained calm enough in an incredibly stressful situation to comply. A couple of those variables change, and the outcome could've been tragic.

    The whole situation sucked from start to finish.

    That is a good example of a bad shoot. It was also partly the fault of the department for putting that officer back on the street as quickly as they did after an almost identical scenario in which the officer had stopped a guy who did reach for a gun in a similar fashion. Bad training and PTSD fueled that I'm sure. A big mess that ended with a life lost.

    But yeah, I agree with your previous statement. I just wasn't sure what you were referencing.
     

    IUBrink

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    Poor guy. The man was a licensed to carry a firearm, informed the officer he was carrying, and went for his wallet like the officer asked. Officer got scared and shot him.
     

    KLB

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    Poor guy. The man was a licensed to carry a firearm, informed the officer he was carrying, and went for his wallet like the officer asked. Officer got scared and shot him.
    That is how it appears.

    It will be interesting to hear the other side of it. Hopefully there was a recording of what happened prior to the facebook video.
     
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