Turkey Votes To Turn Itself Into An Islamic Dictatorship

[GodFearinGunTotin]

So tonight, I'm seeing this pop up on my FB feed. I didn't even know this was being considered over there.


Crucial NATO Ally Just Voted To Become An Islamic Dictatorship | The Federalist Papers

 

[ArcadiaGP]

 

[oldpink]

Yet another one of the unintended consequences of the end of the Cold War.
Turkey once was an ally and friend.
Put this Erdagon ****stain in power and he wants to turn the place into yet another Islamist sewer.

 

[jamil]

"What the voters were saying: Insaf Akay, a 37-year-old mother in a headscarf, said she was tired of being discriminated against by secular Turks, describing how she had been spat on in a market. “I think there will be more freedom for people like me under the new system,” she said."

If true it's pretty ****ty to persecute people for their religious beliefs. But I think what she means, is that there'll be more freedom to personally oppress people who don't agree with her. They're just trading who has the power of the stick.

 

[T.Lex]

People voting sometimes vote for things not ultimately in their best interest.

No exception, applies everywhere in the world.

 

[HoughMade]

People voting sometimes vote for things not ultimately in their best interest.

No exception, applies everywhere in the world.

Ain't that the truth.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

How is that Turkish Spring coming along?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

But I think what she means, is that there'll be more freedom to personally oppress people who don't agree with her. They're just trading who has the power of the stick.

I see that you have studied Middle Eastern history deeply.

 

[CampingJosh]

We've been planning an Istanbul trip for later this year (really, just turning a flight connection into a three-day stay). It's starting to look like this may not be a great plan.

 

[T.Lex]

We've been planning an Istanbul trip for later this year (really, just turning a flight connection into a three-day stay). It's starting to look like this may not be a great plan.

Might depend on how much of an adrenalin junkie you are.

FWIW, Ramadan starts May 26, and Eid is June 25.

 

[oldpink]

"What the voters were saying: Insaf Akay, a 37-year-old mother in a headscarf, said she was tired of being discriminated against by secular Turks, describing how she had been spat on in a market. “I think there will be more freedom for people like me under the new system,” she said."

If true it's pretty ****ty to persecute people for their religious beliefs. But I think what she means, is that there'll be more freedom to personally oppress people who don't agree with her. They're just trading who has the power of the stick.

Yep
That story about "abuse" sounds mighty fishy, too, with the distinct smell of taqiya.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Sounds like the vote may have been tampered with, fraudulent voters, intimidation, etc.

Dictators are dictators, regardless of motivation. We've been walking a fine line with Turkey and the Kurds, historically enemies to each other but allied with us. This will be interesting.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

... Well this is disappointing.

Trump called Erdogan to congratulate him on referendum results, sources say - Turkey - Haaretz

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

... Well this is disappointing.

Trump called Erdogan to congratulate him on referendum results, sources say - Turkey - Haaretz

Yeah, I don't see the compulsion to congratulate him for this.

 

[jamil]

Dear dictator Erdogan. Congratulations on your permanent grasp of power. I'm still working on mine. Wish me luck,

The D.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I just received my most recent issue of The Economist and it contained a solid background article for those that want to get up to speed on Turkey:

http://www.economist.com/news/leade...shest-crackdown-decades-west-must-not-abandon

 

[Fargo]

I just received my most recent issue of The Economist and it contained a solid background article for those that want to get up to speed on Turkey:

http://www.economist.com/news/leade...shest-crackdown-decades-west-must-not-abandon

How much of the coup was Gulen and how much was Erdogan's inside people?

 

[KellyinAvon]

Well, Turkey has been on a downward spiral from powerful secular NATO country to third world islamic totalitarian ****-hole since 2007. Jailing journalists and consolidating power? Sounds like iran to me.

 

[printcraft]

Might depend on how much of an adrenalin junkie you are.

FWIW, Ramadan starts May 26, and Ied is June 25.

FTFY

 

[Thor]

So, on the eve of the 1yr anniversary to the coup Erdogan sacked another 7,000 officials, teachers, police and military officers who he said were involved in or sympathetic to the coup. He said "We will rip the heads from these traitors" and said that the parliament should send him a bill to do just that and he'd sign it. He now wants the power to go back and kill all those people he sacked and anyone one else he doesn't like too. The spiral to despotism increases its angle of attack while he aims to become the chief despot.

Turkey has also struck a deal to procure S400 SAM systems from Russia, a move that Mattis has said would make them incompatible with NATO forces.

On July 18th, Anadolu, the state news agency, published the locations of 10 US military posts in northern Syria including the number of troops present and their nationalities. The Pentagon response through spokesman Eric Pahon "While we cannot independently verify the sources that contributed to this story, we would be very concerned if officials from a NATO ally would purposefully endanger our forces by releasing sensitive information".

In a conflict where treachery is commonplace this is exceptional treachery. It is past time to start drawing down our presence there and seeking a consensus to have them removed from the NATO alliance. Erdogan will make us the enemy to ensure his grasp on totalitarian power, justifying it even as Castro, Maduro, and Un do.