Trump on guns

[Lwright]

Anyone think still think that Trump is playing a game with all this anti 2A stuff? I used to, but am starting to worry that he may stab us in the back.

 

[Tombs]

I imagine guns are the LAST thing on his plate now with the negations with north korea.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I imagine guns are the LAST thing on his plate now with the negations with north korea.

It appears that this "negotiation" claim are substantially inflated. Apparently the South Koreans didn't want to make the statement they did the other night, because they didn't think it sincere, but were forced to, because once Trump got wind of the letter he wanted to make a big hoopla.

OP, I'm unsure if the president will "stab us in the back," his base is strong 2A, and he can't afford to lose any part of it. He's made some troubling statements, sure, but I doubt he'll fall of the deep end.

 

[Dead Duck]

Anyone think still think that Trump is playing a game with all this anti 2A stuff? I used to, but am [STRIKE]starting to worry that he may stab us in the back[/STRIKE] sure glad that Hillary isn't President because she would have tried to ban all guns by now, that ****ing c***.

FIFY

 

[bwframe]

There is reason to stay concerned. He said what he said.

I also think Trump got a real reality check by a whole lot of important folks.

Can't help but notice that the president quickly made some huge moves that took the media away from his gun control summit. He hasn't commented about it since.

 

[BFG]

Other than a few tweets that indicated every thing was "hugs and kisses" was there anymore info as to what transpired in the meeting between Cris Cox, Pence and Trump the other day?

 

[rob63]

I think there has always been plenty of evidence that Trump doesn't really have a core set of values; he's essentially a populist, or at least wishes to appear to be so. Hopefully, the right people can keep him convinced that what the media represents as popular with the people is not necessarily the case. Fortunately, it seems it would be easy to convince him the media isn't giving him an accurate picture. Unfortunately, it also appears there are people close to him that are not on our side. In any case, the safest bet with any President is to make sure no anti-gun bills wind up on his desk to either sign or veto!

 

[HenryWallace]

He does say a lot of non palatable things, but I'm trying to judge by his actions.
The mental health thing is a slippery slope for sure especially when every human being emotion is considered a mental health problem (the current DSM), but as far as I can see no legislation has been passed yet that conserns me.

 

[STFU]

Be cautious, be very cautious:

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.
“Allow due process so no one’s rights are trampled, but the ability to go to court, obtain an order and then collect not only the firearms but any weapons,” Pence said.
"Or, Mike, take the firearms first, and then go to court," Trump responded.

Personally, I don't trust him at all.

 

[Tombs]

Not sure of the validity of it, but supposedly he was congratulating the Gov of Florida on trying to implement some gun bans.

THAT is deeply concerning.

 

[jamil]

I imagine guns are the LAST thing on his plate now with the negations with north korea.

Well. I’ve had about enough of “Trump’s so busy being the most awsomest perssident ever” excuse. He’s not playing 4d chess with anyone. He’s not a genius. He’s not even particularly a good negotiator. He sounds pretty serious to me about where he stands on the 2A, and it’s not with me.

 

[bwframe]

What's the better realistic 2020 alternative to Trump?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

What's the better realistic 2020 alternative to Trump?

None.

But if Hillary were in office and the republicans held the house and senate, do we really think there'd be any equivocating with age limits, bump stocks, etc. that various republicans are getting wishy-washy on now? Sandy Hook was probably as bad as Parkland but with Obama in office, the republicans at least had an ideological reason to not go wobbly. With Trump's unfortunate undisciplined populism, the weak-kneed repubs have cover to give this round of gun control legs.

 

[cbhausen]

Trump is impulsive, petulant, and an egomaniac attention whore. And yeah I voted for him and I’ll probably have to vote for him again. If he has a chance to nominate another Supreme Court justice and they’re not a strict Constructionist, if they are someone that nominates to add “balance” I don’t know what I’ll do. Whatever I do I’ll probably have lots of company. And we will all be pissed and revved up and ready to effect change.

 

[jamil]

What's the better realistic 2020 alternative to Trump?

Is that what you’re left with as a defense? Well, it’s all we got?

No. It’s not. How about in 2020 we don’t elect a Democrat as the Republican nominee, a reality TV host! Why don’t you have a wall yet? Because Trump doesn’t give a **** about that. It’s something he said to a crowd, they cheered, and so he said it more. Same with Guns.

Who in 2020? I hope someone half-assed decent will primarily him.

 

[jamil]

Trump is impulsive, petulant, and an egomaniac attention whore. And yeah I voted for him and I’ll probably have to vote for him again. If he has a chance to nominate another Supreme Court justice and they’re not a strict Constructionist, if they are someone that nominates to add “balance” I don’t know what I’ll do. Whatever I do I’ll probably have lots of company. And we will all be pissed and revved up and ready to effect change.

I voted for him too, bit only because it’s the turd the primaries left me with. But he proported to be a pro 2a turd. And that’s better than the criminal leftist turd he ran against. That 2A support strippedstripped away makes him just a turd. And I’m kinda pissed off about that.

 

[Tyler-The-Piker]

I voted for him too, bit only because it’s the turd the primaries left me with. But he proported to be a pro 2a turd. And that’s better than the criminal leftist turd he ran against. That 2A support strippedstripped away makes him just a turd. And I’m kinda pissed off about that.

QFT

 

[churchmouse]

I voted for him too, bit only because it’s the turd the primaries left me with. But he proported to be a pro 2a turd. And that’s better than the criminal leftist turd he ran against. That 2A support strippedstripped away makes him just a turd. And I’m kinda pissed off about that.

On this issue me to.

 

[SirLiftsALatte]

I think there has always been plenty of evidence that Trump doesn't really have a core set of values; he's essentially a populist, or at least wishes to appear to be so. Hopefully, the right people can keep him convinced that what the media represents as popular with the people is not necessarily the case. Fortunately, it seems it would be easy to convince him the media isn't giving him an accurate picture. Unfortunately, it also appears there are people close to him that are not on our side. In any case, the safest bet with any President is to make sure no anti-gun bills wind up on his desk to either sign or veto!

1. That was my main concern with Trump during the primary and election cycle. We were left with the lesser of 2 evils just as we always are, it just happened that this time the lesser evil just happened to not be an establishment politician.

2. So the safety of our rights rest with the swamp/GOPe? That's not the situation that I had hoped we would be in almost 1.5 years into Trump's presidency.

For the record I am not a NeverTrump'er, I was happy that he won. However, I think that all elected officials need to have their feet held to the fire when/if they back off from their campaign promises and/or ignore the Constitution.

 

[BugI02]

I voted for him too, bit only because it’s the turd the primaries left me with. But he proported to be a pro 2a turd. And that’s better than the criminal leftist turd he ran against. That 2A support strippedstripped away makes him just a turd. And I’m kinda pissed off about that.

But if it comes down to Ellison v Trump in 2020 (or Sanders v Trump or Warren v Trump for that matter), I'm going to vote for him again. Luckily, I don't have to make up my mind for another 2 1/2 years. In the interim, in 2018 the choice is easy, vote conservatives who display backbone. Ones who can help Trump when he seeks to do good and push back when he seeks to backslide. And, personally, I would seek congresscritters who are strict constructionist, too. I just can't find very many here in Ohio, which unless I go full Commiecrat, is the only place I can vote