Democrats = Communists...Change My Mind

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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ka...-private-health-care-plans-thats-not-american

    This is the mainstream Democrat party today. Openly calling for the abolition of a sector of private industry and a takeover by the government.
     

    Thor

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    They have come out as enemies of everything traditional America stands for. They are demanding the same things that communists have been calling for in this country. If I close my eyes and just listen the only difference is one of them doesn't need a translator.
     

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    Which part? :dunno:



    Don't get me wrong, single payer healthcare is a disaster, but it's not full blown socialism. Furthermore, socialism, isn't full blown communism.


    Sweeden's about the closest you get to socialism in the western world, but still a ways off from communism.
     

    JettaKnight

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    I believe our boy Jetta argues just for the sake of it.
    Whatever.

    I state, "grey isn't black", and I'm lambasted for not calling seashell, ivory, and floral white to be black.*


    Like I said, it not worth debating, let alone arguing. You guys have your preconceived, unchangeable opinions. In this context, "Change my mind" is code for, "echo my my opinion". If you post a thread with the title "Change My Mind", I don't see why you've got a problem with someone posting something, that could, change someone's mind.




    I really just wanted to post that link. IMHO, Kamala Harris is as great, or greater, threat than Hillary - especially given her age.


    And now: :wrongdoor:

    * Not to be misconstrued as a dog whistle.
     

    T.Lex

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    Jetta's right, you know.

    Now, in American politics, Dems are more likely to advocate communist/socialist policies than Republicans (let's ignore some contrary examples for purposes of this post). That's absolutely true. But, to say that the modern USian Dems actually are "communist" or "socialist" reveals a certain lack of understanding about what communists and socialists are or were.

    Of course, if we're changing definitions to meet factional sophistry, then that's cool. We can agree that words mean something different now, or even just here in INGO.
     

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    I'm not all that smart I guess. Can't see much difference between Socialism and Communism. Maybe its that the Commies will kill you sooner. Remember, it was called the Union of SOCIALIST Republics.

    All that aside, I see the left, American style, as a core of elitists who want to rule over us and remove our freedom. Their only concern is for power. We, the American are the vehicle for them to get there.
     

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    I'm not all that smart I guess. Can't see much difference between Socialism and Communism. Maybe its that the Commies will kill you sooner. Remember, it was called the Union of SOCIALIST Republics.

    All that aside, I see the left, American style, as a core of elitists who want to rule over us and remove our freedom. Their only concern is for power. We, the American are the vehicle for them to get there.


    Academic Socialism = the workers own the means of production collectively

    Academic Communism = the state owns the means of production (and the workers) collectively

    One is perhaps loosely analogous to a Co-op or mutual company

    The other is more like prisons (and prisoners) being used as manufacturing centers

    But bear in mind that I believe it was Vladimir Ilyich who said "The goal of Socialism is Communism. Always."
     
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