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    Plinker
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    The NRA is selling us out on this "RED FLAG" legislation. They and Lindsey Graham are pushing it. If it goes nationwide the gun grabbers will build on it until they have seized all of our guns and making us all criminals. Call your Senators today and stop giving money to an organization that only cares about membership dollars. They have gotten fat off us and do nothing.
     

    AngryRooster

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    The NRA is selling us out on this "RED FLAG" legislation. They and Lindsey Graham are pushing it. If it goes nationwide the gun grabbers will build on it until they have seized all of our guns and making us all criminals. Call your Senators today and stop giving money to an organization that only cares about membership dollars. They have gotten fat off us and do nothing.

    Wonderful, another one of these threads.
     

    spec4

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    Socialists seeking destruction of America hate the NRA. Why? I will be a member as long as I'm able to.
     

    KLB

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    Wouldn't it be better to work to change a position? Can't do that if you're not a member.
    Can you do it even as a member? Once an organization gets big enough, the ability to meaningfully influence it becomes close to zero. It really isn't much different that our .gov at this point.
     

    BugI02

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    They do seem to be going down the AARP path, becoming concerned about what's good for the NRA in competition with what's good for the members
     

    JettaKnight

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    Well, you guys are welcome to go Washington D.C. and (try to) get meetings with politicians and tell them how you personally will withhold your one vote...


    Or the NRA can do it, and do it well.

    :patriot:



    IMHO, it's fine if the NRA is pragmatic at times. Sometimes there are both rocks and hard places. Choices must be made.


    Do I like the ban? No. But, am I going to throw a tantrum and blame the NRA? No.


    I'll take a somewhat unpopular stance and say bumpstocks (and stability braces) are gimmicks meant to get around a law. Those items live in the grey area and one shouldn't be surprised when the squiggly NFA line gets moved. Better to work hard to change that law (and pull suppressors off the NFA list), and no one is in a better position than the NRA.




    Here's a plausible scenario:
    Droves of gun owners leave the NRA over bumpstocks; even though most of those NRA protesters considered them goofy toys right up to the day ban was announced.
    Then, a weakened NRA isn't able to fend off the Bloomberg machine and an AWB is enacted.
     

    Ziggidy

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    Maybe not. My enemy was Hilary Clinton. The enemy of my enemy was Trump. Trump is not, nor ever has been, my friend.

    And regarding the NRA, I'm not going to contribute to any organization that supports bumpstock bans or red flag laws.

    Sometimes one needs to prioritize their battles in order to win the war. With all due respect, they have done a much better job than I could have alone....or YOU could have alone.

    What have you done to help the cause? What are you willing to do?
     

    spec4

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    ^^^This. We must caution ourselves not to get so close to the forest that we can't see the trees.
     

    indygunguy

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    Sometimes one needs to prioritize their battles in order to win the war. With all due respect, they have done a much better job than I could have alone....or YOU could have alone.

    What have you done to help the cause? What are you willing to do?

    I appreciate your point.

    I'm out there working. I'm a member of several 2nd amendment rights advocacy groups. A member of a few gun clubs. A volunteer instructor for a couple of other groups that help bring new shooters into shooting sports. I've served years as a board member for one such group. Etc.

    My frustration is that groups like GOA are actually out fighting this stuff in courts... while the NRA (at least appears) more interested in big conventions, Charlie Daniels concerts, and their crappy monthly magazines that give only positive reviews to guns that have been on the market for 2 years (oooh look, Remington is making a double stack 1911!).

    Ignore me, I'm frustrated and venting a little.
     
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