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  1. #101
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    All this Defcon stuff and geo-politiking probly makes it difficult for him to concentrate on his putting.
    I all too often ran out of talent well before the exit of the turn. (© Señor Mouse)

  2. #102
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    I think if we catch one of their fast boats unattended, that's something we could take out. He's kinda defined a very narrow parameter for response: blow up stuff but not people. So, he could still make that response.

    (Caveat: I'm nearly positive that if he'd asked for a strike package meeting that criteria, a list would've been generated.)

    As I see it, part of the new "normal" is that there's no downside for enemies to target and attack drones. That actually puts US service members at greater risk. We've already escorted some drones, now it seems likely that almost all of them will have HAVCAP or something like it.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpo View Post
    All this Defcon stuff and geo-politiking probly makes it difficult for him to concentrate on his putting.
    I'm not sure anything distracts him from putting one in the hole.
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    Sounds like as long as Iran doesn't kill anyone they are free to blow up all the **** they want.

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    It is only a suspicion, but I'd lean in favor of the Iranians here that our drone violated their airspace. And in the world of "right and wrong", blowing their **** up because we violated air space is pretty bad optics.
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    Sounds like as long as Iran doesn't kill anyone they are free to blow up all the **** they want.
    Yeah pretty much.
    Its like all the people theyve killed in the past are forgotten. They keep giving iran a clean slate after every bad act.
    Theyll have nukes next and then what? We need to stop them now. This is a terrorist regime. They do not have the sovereign right to have world destructive power.
    This is like if we had the chance to stop the nazis before they started wwii. Iran will start wwiii if we give them the chance.
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by T.Lex View Post
    I think if we catch one of their fast boats unattended, that's something we could take out. He's kinda defined a very narrow parameter for response: blow up stuff but not people. So, he could still make that response.

    (Caveat: I'm nearly positive that if he'd asked for a strike package meeting that criteria, a list would've been generated.)

    As I see it, part of the new "normal" is that there's no downside for enemies to target and attack drones. That actually puts US service members at greater risk. We've already escorted some drones, now it seems likely that almost all of them will have HAVCAP or something like it.
    Yeah if anything it would have to be a different target package but at this point I think the window for a future strike concerning this particular incident has closed.

  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    Sounds like as long as Iran doesn't kill anyone they are free to blow up all the **** they want.
    IDK...I think Trump made the right call here.

    We lost a drone? Meh...that's what they're for. Launch another. Launch a hundred more. Let the Revolutionary Guard waste their energy swatting away our robot mosquitos. We gain nothing by engaging on their terms and their turf. If they want a fight make it on our terms...in the skies and on the seas. Make them launch their few remaining airworthy F-14s and their second-hand MIGs, pull them into blue water...make it expensive for them.

    President Trump showed he (and we, by extension) value the lives of 150 foreign civilian strangers over a a quarter billion dollars of war machinery...I like the message that sends.

  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by T.Lex View Post
    I'm not sure anything distracts him from putting one in the hole.
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    Cross-posting from the Nuclear Iran thread

    If anyone wants to see familiar faces talking out of the other side of their ... avatar, go back and read the first couple of hundred posts in [that] thread (which pre-date the trump era). Its got everything, including Democrats saying 47 Republican senators sending a pre-deal letter to Iran stating the treaty will require a senate vote are committing treason and being supported by a few on INGO

    I guess it really does matter if its your guy in the WH, point conceded

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