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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatin Since 87 View Post
    Scary part is Antifa isn’t just children. The ICE ordeal last week was a 69 (?) year old man. Mentality of a child maybe.
    Yeah, that was my point.


    Nevertheless, let them take the low road, deal with them using law and order, and hold the high ground.


    Communist uprisings on that scale have come and gone in America in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JettaKnight View Post
    So now property is included in the list?
    That's from the gospel according to Locke
    You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you

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    Quote Originally Posted by JettaKnight View Post



    So now property is included in the list?

    See John Locke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spear Dane View Post
    ...In the end the only 'rights' people have are the ones they are willing to fight for and can successfully defend.
    Not even close. Perhaps you meant 'freedoms'.


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    Quote Originally Posted by churchmouse View Post
    Its all good but you did come at me in exactly that way as is your way of posting. I read a lot. Its my job.

    Come on man. The early Antifa idiocy (Mr bike lock on a chain) was a tenured professor. These people are not all children. Look at the mug shots and the pics. Sure there are "Kids" in the pack but not the majority. Look at the pics of the people preparing for an assault....those are not mainly kids my friend.
    And if you are paying much attention the law is standing down in way to many city's allowing these douche bags free runs.

    I have always professed that we have had term limits right in our grasp. The voting booth. Send these idiots packing but time and again the brain dead march into the polls in lock step and pull the party lever or blow it on some independent with zero chances of making a serious run.
    We need to educate the electorate but as many of us can see this is a fools errand.

    Sorry to jump in here, but I see the statement as a joke.

    JK and I both realize that you are not new here and know that some do not read/care what others say. The statement has been used toward me on several occasions when I have tried to get some to answer in kind.




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    John Locke was wrong in that statement as many of us have been wrong on many occasions.




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    Quote Originally Posted by 2A_Tom View Post
    Sorry to jump in here, but I see the statement as a joke.

    JK and I both realize that you are not new here and know that some do not read/care what others say. The statement has been used toward me on several occasions when I have tried to get some to answer in kind.
    Uh....we have purple you know.

    And as I stated it is a no worries thing. But I too will defend my opinions just as you and JKnight will. I have been on this rock for a long long long time. I had friends that carried signs in protest way the heck back in the day. I had very mixed emotions about those times. What we are seeing now is candy dressing. LEO just stands and watches. That gives the idiots free reign to run amok. Nothing like the early days where LEO would wear your butt out and drag you off near unconscious. Fire hoses and tear gas deployed willy-nilly. These snow flakes would never survive.

    We have seen troubled times before. But our elected idiots are way out in left field now.
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    +10 for spelling amok correctly.

    Really, I have great respect for your moderation and most of your opinions 'cept when you disagree with me.

    Used Grape juice just in case.




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    Quote Originally Posted by 2A_Tom View Post
    +10 for spelling amok correctly.

    Really, I have great respect for your moderation and most of your opinions 'cept when you disagree with me.

    Used Grape juice just in case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JettaKnight View Post
    As to that article, all I saw was a Rabbi advocating that Jews lock and load. Did I miss something relevant?
    On the gun control side are a number of frequently cited rabbinic principles. Judaism mandates that one avoid unnecessary danger, and some studies show that gun ownership is risky. The Talmud in Avoda Zara prohibits selling weapons to idolaters, prompting one rabbinic authority to extend the ban even to Jewish bandits — a statement readily invoked to justify restricting gun sales to criminals and the mentally ill. Rabbinic groups from all three major Jewish denominations — Orthodox, Conservative and Reform — have all cited Jewish legal precedent in resolutions supporting gun control.Finally, there’s the famous saying of Isaiah, who prophesied a time when nations would beat their swords into plough shares — a vision often said to reflect Judaism’s belief that the ideal society is one devoid of deadly weaponry. This dim view of weapons is cited in a Mishnah that records a disagreement over whether it is permitted to carry weapons on Shabbat. Rabbi Eliezer maintains that they are merely “ornaments,” but his colleagues, citing Isaiah, disagree, saying weapons are “indignities.”
    The Orthodox Rabbinical Council of America, in its 2014 resolution in favor of restricting “American citizens’ easy and unregulated access to weapons,” cited Isaiah in support of its call for avoiding “recreational activities that desensitize participants to killing, weaponry, and violence.”
    Excerpt from, https://www.myjewishlearning.com/art...ng-in-judaism/ Jews and Guns Jewish law forbids hunting, and few Jews own firearms.

    ETA: You need to read the whole article.



















































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