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  • Ingomike

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    It is fascinating to see the plethora of changes in so many things in so many things, including the Republican Party. Here are some changes of note to me.

    Trump is a fighter, like it or not, he fights everyday all day and night. It is amazing at his age he can be so energized to fight what must seem sometimes like the whole world. He has changed the thinking of so many conservatives, they are following his lead and fighting back too. Remember Lindsay Graham in SCOTUS fight and how he fought? Think that would have happened for a Bush II nominee? But have you read of so many retirements from the house and senate? Why? The truth is most do not want to engage in the fight. The crazy azz media lie about them, their positions, and legislation and they just turn the other cheek. Trump has lead conservatives to Learn to fight. I like this article from early in his term, but still true today.

    https://townhall.com/columnists/evansayet/2017/07/13/he-fights-n2354580


    Rush said this today,

    The two biggest factors currently creating a quiet "panic" among Democrats, Rush suggested, is the fallout from Beto O'Rourke's gun control antics at the third Democratic Debate last week and some media-shocking poll numbers.

    Gallup has Trump with a higher approval rating the BHO at the same point in their presidencies, his approval rating has done nothing but generally go up over his term as he has governed as opposed to his predecessor that started so high and generally fell as he governed.

    Other changes are the energy in conservatives fighting the culture war, and not just taking it.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    I agree, he's a fighter, but it appears that he fights more for self than country, if the two cross paths, so much the better. And so far as the changes, I'd say that those changes to the GOP aren't for the better.
     

    Leadeye

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    My opinion of President Trump hasn't changed, he's a pig, and if you want to wrestle with a pig you are going to get filthy and the pig likes it. That said it is good to see somebody beat on big media.
     

    phylodog

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    He's fighting more for self than country because he's personally attacked all day, every day. I don't know if it's an attempt to keep him too distracted to focus on making things better or if people in this country are really that petulant, or both.

    I don't care about who he is as a person. I didn't vote for him so he could be a role model. If his actions and apparent refusal to play by the rules of the establishment is causing career politicians to jump ship them I'm all for it. He wasn't elected because he was great, he was elected because he was different and both sides couldn't stand it. If, at the end of his second term we can all look back and find that the Washington D.C. of 2024 is dramatically different than the Washington D.C. of 2016 then his presidency will go down as an overwhelming success.
     

    Ingomike

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    I agree, he's a fighter, but it appears that he fights more for self than country, if the two cross paths, so much the better. And so far as the changes, I'd say that those changes to the GOP aren't for the better.

    If the enemy is shooting at the general, are they shooting at him personally or as the head of their enemy?

    If if the appeasement Repubs quit that is definitely for the better. So long Paul Ryan and your ilk...
     

    Ingomike

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    My opinion of President Trump hasn't changed, he's a pig, and if you want to wrestle with a pig you are going to get filthy and the pig likes it. That said it is good to see somebody beat on big media.

    From the article I linked to...

    We Right-thinking people have tried dignity. There could not have been a man of more quiet dignity than George W. Bush as he suffered the outrageous lies and politically motivated hatreds that undermined his presidency. We tried statesmanship. Could there be another human being on this earth who so desperately prized “collegiality” as John McCain? We tried propriety – has there been a nicer human being ever than Mitt Romney? And the results were always the same.
    This is because, while we were playing by the rules of dignity, collegiality and propriety, the Left has been, for the past 60 years, engaged in a knife fight where the only rules are those of Saul Alinsky and the Chicago mob.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    He's fighting more for self than country because he's personally attacked all day, every day. I don't know if it's an attempt to keep him too distracted to focus on making things better or if people in this country are really that petulant, or both.

    I don't care about who he is as a person. I didn't vote for him so he could be a role model. If his actions and apparent refusal to play by the rules of the establishment is causing career politicians to jump ship them I'm all for it. He wasn't elected because he was great, he was elected because he was different and both sides couldn't stand it. If, at the end of his second term we can all look back and find that the Washington D.C. of 2024 is dramatically different than the Washington D.C. of 2016 then his presidency will go down as an overwhelming success.

    That depends on which way DC goes, because it can get worse. And IMO it has gotten worse. American global prestige, power projection, and leadership is a mere shadow of what it was.
     

    jamil

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    From the article I linked to...

    We Right-thinking people have tried dignity. There could not have been a man of more quiet dignity than George W. Bush as he suffered the outrageous lies and politically motivated hatreds that undermined his presidency. We tried statesmanship. Could there be another human being on this earth who so desperately prized “collegiality” as John McCain? We tried propriety – has there been a nicer human being ever than Mitt Romney? And the results were always the same.
    This is because, while we were playing by the rules of dignity, collegiality and propriety, the Left has been, for the past 60 years, engaged in a knife fight where the only rules are those of Saul Alinsky and the Chicago mob.
    You can fight back with dignity. He doesn’t HAVE to be an *******. He doesn’t HAVE to have the character of a man who screws a porn star while his wife is pregnant with is son.
     
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    Dr.Midnight

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    That depends on which way DC goes, because it can get worse. And IMO it has gotten worse. American global prestige, power projection, and leadership is a mere shadow of what it was.

    This is what's keeping you up at night? Increasing our security and a red hot economy give me a warm fuzzy feeling.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Your definitions differ from mine.

    Do they? I have a pretty good idea what I think global prestige, power projection, and leadership are. How are yours different, and if you could, illustrate how those things have increased since the election of Trump.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    This is what's keeping you up at night? Increasing our security and a red hot economy give me a warm fuzzy feeling.

    I have not seen how our security has been noticeably improved , if at all. And as for a red hot economy, unless you're in the 1% or close to it, you aren't seeing the benefits. In fact, in light of the recent bullying of the FED, if you were someone who was responsible with their money, you're about to see losses, to keep that red hot economy going, and the banksters fat.
     

    Dr.Midnight

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    I have not seen how our security has been noticeably improved , if at all. And as for a red hot economy, unless you're in the 1% or close to it, you aren't seeing the benefits. In fact, in light of the recent bullying of the FED, if you were someone who was responsible with their money, you're about to see losses, to keep that red hot economy going, and the banksters fat.

    What are tonight's Powerball numbers?
     

    phylodog

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    Do they? I have a pretty good idea what I think global prestige, power projection, and leadership are. How are yours different, and if you could, illustrate how those things have increased since the election of Trump.

    I see a near 100% about face as far as power projection and prestige are concerned. We currently have a POTUS who has demonstrated that we aren’t bowing down to those who threaten this country and we certainly aren’t sending billions of dollars to those countries to keep them from posturing against us. There’s a reason US Forces don’t show their palm when they salute, I appreciate the fact that Trump understands that.

    As as far as leadership is concerned, disagreeing with the direction he may be trying to take things doesn’t make him any less a leader than if you agreed with him. Right thing, right time for the right reasons. While he’s not consistent in hitting all three I’ll certainly take two out of three any day over zero.

    I don’t think he’s the best we’ve had but I know he’s not the worst. I don’t particularly care what the rest of the world thinks of us but I certainly believe we are enjoying a renewed level of respect which had been lost during the previous administration.
     

    spec4

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    As for Trump's personal life; "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone". This guy tells it like it is and swings back. The Dems have been going crazy since he got in. I want to see an epidemic of TDS.
     

    BugI02

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    I have not seen how our security has been noticeably improved , if at all. And as for a red hot economy, unless you're in the 1% or close to it, you aren't seeing the benefits. In fact, in light of the recent bullying of the FED, if you were someone who was responsible with their money, you're about to see losses, to keep that red hot economy going, and the banksters fat.


    Coming from a bitcoin investor, that statement is Fe3+
     

    jamil

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    As for Trump's personal life; "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone". This guy tells it like it is and swings back. The Dems have been going crazy since he got in. I want to see an epidemic of TDS.
    WTF? “This guy tells it like it is and swings back,” therefore nothing else matters. I guess he literally could shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue and not lose any voters. Because, you know, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Because Jesus said absolutely nothing else after that. There are apparently two forms of TDS.
     
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