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    Quote Originally Posted by Jludo View Post
    Napoleon built an empire, are you making some sort of point about real estate developers being better presidents than military generals?
    Didn't know you were an Eisenhower fan. He's the only modern example
    You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kutnupe14 View Post
    The better question, is what has a general destroyed to keep you safe.
    This line of discussion is kinda silly. I donít vote for candidates *because* of their military history. I donít give a **** if he was a general if he supports policies I donít like. It might fit into my decision if the candidates are otherwise equal, or if it comes down to a question of leadership. And of course itís reasonable to pick a general because of leadership if thatís the most important trait to you. But there are other considerations than just that which are also reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jludo View Post
    Napoleon built an empire, are you making some sort of point about real estate developers being better presidents than military generals?
    okay, so itís better to elect another Napoleon, you know, because heís a general, than a real estate developer. It is a personal decision. If that criterion is as deep as you dig into the person you vote for, thatís pretty much low information voting. Of course it should go deeper than just that. ***damn straight I would vote for a real estate developer over a general if the real estate developer hit more of my criteria.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kutnupe14 View Post
    Maybe you already recognized it, but I think Jludo is referencing that Trumpers seem to hold the opinion that in you're not on your knees for Trump, you're a swamp-swimming leftist that hates America. The cult will not abide criticisms of Cheetos Jesus.
    He was not my choice in the primary. I voted for him in the general as I did not see any real choice. I am an ideological conservative, not a populist. I believe in small government. I am very upset that we did not work harder to balance the budget when we had both houses. We are at a trillion dollar deficit again this year and NO ONE seems to care.

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    My point would be that a soldiers job is to break things and kill people. Whether he is a private or a general. War college teaches generals to lead people in the act of breaking things and killing people.

    There is no school that teaches you to be a President.

    I would rather have someone that has spent his life building things than someone that has spent his life breaking things.

    One of the most poignant arguments against the prior occupant of the WH is that he had never built so much as a hot dog stand.

    I would take a battlefield organizer over a community organizer, though.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    The way I remember it from back then. Most people weren't happy that he was the nominee but had to vote for him anyway, because Obama.
    People held their noses for Romney in 2012. In 2008 people held their noses for McCain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor View Post
    Meh, knife hand didn't come up with a winning strategy for the never ending wars when he was SecDef...just more of the swamp. I was very disappointing in him. I would not support him for president.
    The only way to end the wars is a ww2 strategy. Kill them all or kill enough to the point where they surrender. America is not for wars like Vietnam, Korea, WW2 or WW1. They want a PC war with zero collateral damage.
    ďSon, when the Marine Corps wants you to have a wife, you will be issued one.Ē -Chesty Puller


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    Quote Originally Posted by 1775usmarine View Post
    The only way to end the wars is a ww2 strategy. Kill them all or kill enough to the point where they surrender. America is not for wars like Vietnam, Korea, WW2 or WW1. They want a PC war with zero collateral damage.
    Exactly right. Our current culture would never allow us to actually do what is needed to win a war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1775usmarine View Post
    The only way to end the wars is a ww2 strategy. Kill them all or kill enough to the point where they surrender. America is not for wars like Vietnam, Korea, WW2 or WW1. They want a PC war with zero collateral damage.
    That was old Curt's philosophy. Kill enough of them and they will stop fighting. I believe that in modern times we have the ability to deal with enemies on a leadership only basis.
    Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth shattering Kaboom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leadeye View Post
    That was old Curt's philosophy. Kill enough of them and they will stop fighting. I believe that in modern times we have the ability to deal with enemies on a leadership only basis.
    Pretty difficult when they hide in holes in the ground and you cannot find them.





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