NYC Relocating Their Homeless In Other States & Cities...

[Ingomike]

NYC just got caught dumping their homeless around the country without notifying the jurisdictions where they were sending them. Decided it was cheaper to give them a years rent, transportation, and even some cash just to get rid of them. Just send them to someone else...

How many did they dump in our state?

https://nypost.com/2019/10/26/nyc-h...e-across-us-without-telling-receiving-cities/

 

[jamil]

NYC just got caught dumping their homeless around the country without notifying the jurisdictions where they were sending them. Decided it was cheaper to give them a years rent, transportation, and even some cash just to get rid of them. Just send them to someone else...

How many did they dump in our state?

https://nypost.com/2019/10/26/nyc-h...e-across-us-without-telling-receiving-cities/

This is apparently a common practice. I came across an interactive map that shows the flow of homeless from city to city. Sometimes it's their own doing, greener pastures, or whatever. But sometimes cities will give these people bus fair to other cities. I think there was a case a while ago about a homeless person in LA who was given a bus ticket to Indianapolis. Of course it was freezing when he got here without a coat.

 

[Mongo59]

To a lesser extent most cities practice the "keep them moving" plan.

Our church is part of a group that feeds the homeless, we do it one Sunday a month. The city across the bridge is actively "cleaning out" the homeless shanties and we have gone from feeding 40-60 to feeding 150-175.

Do the math, if you give every person 1 cup (8 oz) of soup it takes over 10 gallons or just shy of 90 pounds of soup. For the entire meal you need a few vehicles and a small willing crew just to tote it on location.

Then you need more people to carry to the ones who can't come to that location.

The needs will far outweigh the supply unless everyday people like ourselves set our minds and resources to helping those that need/can be helped...

 

[Ingomike]

To a lesser extent most cities practice the "keep them moving" plan.

Our church is part of a group that feeds the homeless, we do it one Sunday a month. The city across the bridge is actively "cleaning out" the homeless shanties and we have gone from feeding 40-60 to feeding 150-175.

Do the math, if you give every person 1 cup (8 oz) of soup it takes over 10 gallons or just shy of 90 pounds of soup. For the entire meal you need a few vehicles and a small willing crew just to tote it on location.

Then you need more people to carry to the ones who can't come to that location.

The needs will far outweigh the supply unless everyday people like ourselves set our minds and resources to helping those that need/can be helped...

To me, not quite the same. NYC is spending millions to push these people onto other communities rather than solve the problem. Sort of like the soup kitchen in your neighboring town stops serving soup and instead provides rides to your soup kitchen, it just is not right...

 

[HoughMade]

To me, not quite the same. NYC is spending millions to push these people onto other communities rather than solve the problem. Sort of like the soup kitchen in your neighboring town stops serving soup and instead provides rides to your soup kitchen, it just is not right...

By doing what, exactly....

 

[GIJEW]

By doing what, exactly....

Maybe stopping some "democratic socialist" policies like "rent control" that drives down the amount of low cost housing? Maybe not mandating $15 minimum wage that drives down the number of entry level jobs?

 

[HoughMade]

Maybe stopping some "democratic socialist" policies like "rent control" that drives down the amount of low cost housing? Maybe not mandating $15 minimum wage that drives down the number of entry level jobs?

Oh, a 50 year plan that does not affect the vast majority of homeless which is due to mental and substance abuse problems...I like it.

 

[Phase2]

the vast majority of homeless which is due to mental and substance abuse problems...

^This, this this.

 

[Ingomike]

By doing what, exactly....

Oh, a 50 year plan that does not affect the vast majority of homeless which is due to mental and substance abuse problems...I like it.

Solving substance abuse and having a plan to deal with mental illness will solve more than just mass shootings, er homelessness...

 

[BugI02]

I am aware of zero possible avenues of attack that would 'solve' substance abuse since the process exploits pre-existing and necessary chemical pathways in the body

Consider as one example: Opium/heroin/oxycodeine abuse uses existing binding sites in the body for chemicals that damp pain signals. If we developed a compound that bound tightly, perhaps permanently, to those receptors we might be sentencing the individuals so treated to heightened pain signaling (as happens in withdrawal) permanently; or if the compound had analgesic properties we might be sentencing those so treated to permanent numbness or worse an eternal high

It is fine to talk of solving substance abuse, but the intensive intervention and monitoring necessary to achieve a less than optimal rate of success and the constant danger of relapse make it so expensive and of such questionable value for the price that it will never be the solution. A more likely solution (that I do not advocate) is that something between oxycodeine and fentanyl, with a shorter, steeper ramp to where the dose to get high crosses the lethal dose threshold will begin 'solving' the addict problem the way warfarin 'solves' the rat problem by being a palatable choice that isn't detectable as lethal until past the point of no return

 

[Leadeye]

Maybe we could try getting rid of the people making a buck off the misery. Hang drug dealers.