Does The President Have Free Speech To Tell The People His Opinion Of Government

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  • Ingomike

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    The President recently opined on the Roger Stone sentencing and the dems are predictably screaming obstruction of justice. Just under what constitutional caveats does the President lose his ability to opine to the people? Does this just apply to just the President or to senators and representatives?

    I get that if a President goes after a defendant of a government prosecution that the defense can use that to claim the trial was tainted, but if the President, the elected overseer of DOJ thinks they are wrong, where is the constitutional authority to stop his speech?

    Good old Chuck Todd asks a senator if DOJ should be above elected oversight.

    Are we at the point where we can not trust a political appointee to be in charge of Justice?

    That this self aggrandized eliteist wants an unconstitutional unresponsive bureaucracy over the people, that is beyond criticism by our reps, is truly an insight into their thinking. Even the dem did not go for that.

    I hired Trump to go to DC and break some glass draining the swamp. To disrupt the corrupt cabal of dems and repubs, and the deep state they have grown cozy using against even everyday Americans. This conventional wisdom the the President cannot speak his mind for fear of an obstruction claim is just another glass that needs shattered...

    https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/1...inks-dojs-problem-is-too-much-accountability/
     
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    indykid

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    According to the socialist mantra, you do not have free speech, therefore the president does not have a first amendment right like mandated in the constitution.

    According to the constitution, I am glad we have a president who is not afraid to speak his mind regardless as to whether we agree or how we feel about what is said.
     

    2A_Tom

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    Old eyes. Wearing computer glassed to read normal size. I get vertigo trying to read Lib01 and some of mikes posts. I wind up scrolling past some.

    Sorry.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Yes the president has freedom of speech. However, one must understand that his opinions have real word consequences. Further, since the whenever he tweets, it is considered as the "official" stance of the administration (and that comes from the administration itself) it undoubtedly, in many cases could be considered the president's wishes to his subordinates.
    For instance, speaking generally, if the president tweets "Person X should not be prosecuted by the DoJ, because of the many corrupt members of the Deep State in that agency," well, that's an opinion AND an official statement. Someone working that case may simply drop the the charges because the administration has stated "officially" that the prosecution is corrupt.

    We of course are speaking of Roger Stone, a man convicted on 7 federal felony counts. I haven't heard anyone say he didn't do what he was convicted of... so that said, he should spend a bit of time in the pokey. I image that the sentencing judge, and Obama appointee, will given him time.... followed, soon after, with a pardon. For someone who talked about allowing LE to get "tough," it seems to not apply to people the president has a favorable opinion on.
     

    Ingomike

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    Yes the president has freedom of speech. However, one must understand that his opinions have real word consequences. Further, since the whenever he tweets, it is considered as the "official" stance of the administration (and that comes from the administration itself) it undoubtedly, in many cases could be considered the president's wishes to his subordinates.
    For instance, speaking generally, if the president tweets "Person X should not be prosecuted by the DoJ, because of the many corrupt members of the Deep State in that agency," well, that's an opinion AND an official statement. Someone working that case may simply drop the the charges because the administration has stated "officially" that the prosecution is corrupt.

    We of course are speaking of Roger Stone, a man convicted on 7 federal felony counts. I haven't heard anyone say he didn't do what he was convicted of... so that said, he should spend a bit of time in the pokey. I image that the sentencing judge, and Obama appointee, will given him time.... followed, soon after, with a pardon. For someone who talked about allowing LE to get "tough," it seems to not apply to people the president has a favorable opinion on.

    Overcharged, over prosecuted, and over convicted by deep state operatives looking to get Trump. The goal in this and Flynn was always to get Trump, not Flynn or Stone. The Stone raid and arrest, overdone to provoke Trump to do something impeachable. Most of what Stone is convicted of is rarely prosecuted if there is no underlying criminal charges. He was just a showman trying not to be embarrassed for stupid things, not illegal things, based on the absence of charges, that did break the law trying to hide them. Not destroy our republic level stuff...
     

    printcraft

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    .........
    For instance, speaking generally, if the president tweets "Person X should not be prosecuted by the DoJ, because of the many corrupt members of the Deep State in that agency," well, that's an opinion AND an official statement. Someone working that case may simply drop the the charges because the administration has stated "officially" that the prosecution is corrupt. ...


    No, it's not.


    Opinion:
    "Person X should not be prosecuted by the DoJ, because of the many corrupt members of the Deep State in that agency,"

    Official Statement:
    "I order Person X not be prosecuted by the DoJ, because of the many corrupt members of the Deep State in that agency,"
     

    red_zr24x4

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    I wouldn't think a tweet from any president would be considered an official statement, opinion yes.
    Official statement to me would be answering a question on camera, or a recorded message, official letterhead that kind of thing.
     

    2A_Tom

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    No, it's not.


    Opinion:
    "Person X should not be prosecuted by the DoJ, because of the many corrupt members of the Deep State in that agency,"

    Official Statement:
    "I order Person X not be prosecuted by the DoJ, because of the many corrupt members of the Deep State in that agency,"

    Dragged you under.
     

    Ingomike

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    I will demonstrate font size 4. ​Notice anything?

    On my iPad it is a very similar font just a couple of sizes larger and easier to read than the standard size. It must appear different on different devices. On my iPad it was a better read so I thought it was for everybody...
     

    Ingomike

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    No, it's not.


    Opinion:
    "Person X should not be prosecuted by the DoJ, because of the many corrupt members of the Deep State in that agency,"

    Official Statement:
    "I order Person X not be prosecuted by the DoJ, because of the many corrupt members of the Deep State in that agency,"

    It is no wonder the left thinks Trump a dictator, they seem to believe the Presidency is a dictatorship if they equate every utterance of the President as "official" without regard to the constitutional requirements...
     
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