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  • Hatin Since 87

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    Wondering everyone’s thoughts on this. The reason the left is winning the “social war” so to speak, is because everything is ran by liberals. Sports, Colleges, Hollywood, Music industry, etc all the way down to elementary schools now. Conservatives don’t even fight with the same tools they use. If someone in sports comes out conservative, they eventually back down and give in, usually.

    The problem is, imo, the left controls 99% of media. All the main tv networks are ran by the left. Facebook and twitter are ran by the left. Why aren’t conservatives starting to do this? We have conservative outlets, like ingo, but nothing mainstream... so all these people read the saaaaaaame bs on 10 different sources and believe it. We have Fox News, and they’re starting to cave. Conservatives have plenty of people with wealth that could invest in this battle, why aren’t they? Why are they content with watching the country be taken over by corrupt FBI agents, a media that covers for them, and colleges and platforms censoring conservative views?

    Why aren’t conservatives starting mainstream media outlets, making movies, music, etc? They’re out there, they’re just afraid to fight, but if media was 50/50 they wouldn’t have to fight, they’d have the support to come out and not be bullied and assaulted.
     

    NKBJ

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    Hatin,
    My take on it is that almost all infotainment is controlled by the same people that control almost all politicians.
    There's a control system in place with layers of deception between it and the public's eyes.
     

    NKBJ

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    'Nother thought.
    The entertainment industry is giving the public what the public now wants.
    To have a good country again the people have to return to good values.
    That's why the Russian government wanted Christianity.
     

    foszoe

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    Wondering everyone’s thoughts on this. The reason the left is winning the “social war” so to speak, is because everything is ran by liberals. Sports, Colleges, Hollywood, Music industry, etc all the way down to elementary schools now. Conservatives don’t even fight with the same tools they use. If someone in sports comes out conservative, they eventually back down and give in, usually.

    The problem is, imo, the left controls 99% of media. All the main tv networks are ran by the left. Facebook and twitter are ran by the left. Why aren’t conservatives starting to do this? We have conservative outlets, like ingo, but nothing mainstream... so all these people read the saaaaaaame bs on 10 different sources and believe it. We have Fox News, and they’re starting to cave. Conservatives have plenty of people with wealth that could invest in this battle, why aren’t they? Why are they content with watching the country be taken over by corrupt FBI agents, a media that covers for them, and colleges and platforms censoring conservative views?

    Why aren’t conservatives starting mainstream media outlets, making movies, music, etc? They’re out there, they’re just afraid to fight, but if media was 50/50 they wouldn’t have to fight, they’d have the support to come out and not be bullied and assaulted.

    I think its because conservatives are too cheap. Ask a liberal if they contribute to political campaigns and its more likely to get a yes than whe you ask a conservative. At least in my experience I try to get people in my circle to contribute to conservative candidates or issues all the time and its like pulling teeth!
     

    NKBJ

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    Maybe we need to get a good look at hell in order to be reminded why we should fear it and love righteousness

    Yeah, that's probably being arranged right now. Remember the temporary effects of the 911 event? Next one might last longer.
     

    Hohn

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    There's Conservative Media, then there's media that's conservative.

    The former are part of the shell game of creating the illusion of choice. Hannity, Glenn Beck, etc. It's all hype, self promotion and endlessly about the $$ with these types. Ann Coulter will have yet another new book. Hannity will have yet another "bombshell" dud that makes Al Capone's vaults look like a real thing. These people are puppets for the Chamber of Commerce and the donor circle in DC. They aren't Conservative so much as Republican. And if you haven't figured out yet those are vastly different things, then it's unfortunate.

    Now the 2nd part, those are people I see who are principles-first kind of people. These are the people who criticize the Republicans as well as Democrats. These are the ones calling out the pork-pie projects with Rs as well as Ds. These are the people lamenting the mafia-like way the parties are run that explains the utter dysfunction of Congress. These people are mostly web-based.

    The reason that the Conservative Media is so corruptible and so predictable is because it's the front for the money interests. Small government has no constituency. Big government as all kinds of clients. The only difference between the massive gov't the Chamber of Commerce/Mitch McConnel wants and the massive gov't Pelosi and Schumer want is whose people will benefit.

    Many so-called conservative media has all kind of heartaches with massive pork projects for Green Energy-- solar scams, biofuels etc. They manufacture outrage all the time that billions is siphoned to far left causes.

    Yet they are conspicuously silent on the Chamber of Commerce interests running the GOP and giving out pork barrel benefits to a different tribe-- the "good guys" we're supposed to pretend aren't just a different trough feeder.

    The tiny slice of us that pay attention and try to shrink the scope and power of government are vastly outnumbered. In part because so many Republican voters are frankly idiots. They are too lazy to do even a little bit of research and just vote party line Republican.

    Doubt me?

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/146354...rchist-wins-nomination-new-hampshire-sheriff/
     

    JTScribe

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    I really like Dan Bongino. He's got a great podcast, and he's a partner in Parler, which is a Twitter alternative. The trouble is nibbling around the edges of the existing systems. A lot of these conservative alternatives haven't been able to get far because credit card processors and web hosts will simply refuse to service them. There are entrenched interests you have to curry favor with to get anywhere--which, TBH, is pretty common in a lot of things.
     

    Twangbanger

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    There's Conservative Media, then there's media that's conservative.

    The former are part of the shell game of creating the illusion of choice. Hannity, Glenn Beck, etc. It's all hype, self promotion and endlessly about the $$ with these types. Ann Coulter will have yet another new book. Hannity will have yet another "bombshell" dud that makes Al Capone's vaults look like a real thing. These people are puppets for the Chamber of Commerce and the donor circle in DC. They aren't Conservative so much as Republican. And if you haven't figured out yet those are vastly different things, then it's unfortunate.

    Now the 2nd part, those are people I see who are principles-first kind of people. These are the people who criticize the Republicans as well as Democrats. These are the ones calling out the pork-pie projects with Rs as well as Ds. These are the people lamenting the mafia-like way the parties are run that explains the utter dysfunction of Congress. These people are mostly web-based.

    The reason that the Conservative Media is so corruptible and so predictable is because it's the front for the money interests. Small government has no constituency. Big government as all kinds of clients. The only difference between the massive gov't the Chamber of Commerce/Mitch McConnel wants and the massive gov't Pelosi and Schumer want is whose people will benefit.

    Many so-called conservative media has all kind of heartaches with massive pork projects for Green Energy-- solar scams, biofuels etc. They manufacture outrage all the time that billions is siphoned to far left causes.

    Yet they are conspicuously silent on the Chamber of Commerce interests running the GOP and giving out pork barrel benefits to a different tribe-- the "good guys" we're supposed to pretend aren't just a different trough feeder.

    The tiny slice of us that pay attention and try to shrink the scope and power of government are vastly outnumbered. In part because so many Republican voters are frankly idiots. They are too lazy to do even a little bit of research and just vote party line Republican.

    Doubt me?

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/146354...rchist-wins-nomination-new-hampshire-sheriff/

    Hohn, I'd like to rep you a Million points for that post. But I'd also like to answer Hatin's question a slightly different way.

    The Republican Elites do not care about the "stupid social issues" retail Republican voters would like to see addressed in a Conservative Media. As Hohn pointed out, they are the Chamber of Commerce. In addition to secretly loathing the principle of limited government, they would not care if transsexuals won all the womens' athletic championships, and every person who ever expressed a conservative view online got fired from their job tomorrow, or even if (in my opinion) there were some kind of forced gun-buyback. They do not care about that stuff, because all that "winning the culture" stuff is outside the mission objectives set by the Board of Directors of G.O.P., LLC.

    They just care about winning the Economic Policy War on behalf of Wall Street. And they don't need the media to do that. They just need to be able to donate to Congressional campaigns and lobby Congress, outside the light of day. As long as they have secured the economic playing field for Wall Street, the rest of you provincial rubes sleeping in your rumpled beds in Sht-ville U.S.A. can go suck an egg.

    Of course, like the rains bringing greenery to the plains of Africa every so often, G.O.P., LLC will still come to you every four years to seek your vote. But once the "crocodiles have eaten the zebras" one more time (or the locusts have picked everything clean, more accurately), it's back to your dried-up water hole with Glenn Beck on 24-hour loop (or whoever the crying evangelical Jimmy Bakker wannabe-of-choice happens to be at the moment).

    And you're going to see the outcome of this in 6 weeks, when Trump has lost the election and been exiled back to Mar-a-Lago. They have stood by while cowardly anonymous pension-seekers in the Joint Chiefs and other organs of the Foreign Policy Elite have committed leak after leak of classified information (**something they all wanted Edward Snowden to be hanged for**) in an attempt to topple an elected President and make Civilian authority obey the Military, rather than the other way around. They have allowed President Trump's voicing of legitimate concerns about how our economic and trade policies are deployed, to be mischaracterized as a racist, authoritarian modern throwback to the Third Reich, 24/7, 52 weeks a year, in every media stream imaginable.

    And in 6 weeks, they will get what they paid for. And we will be stuck beeching about it on a gun board.

    (PS - However, Eric Holcomb will get 4 more years. So shut up, put on your mask, and assume the position, Lugar voters).
     
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    NKBJ

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    Lugar was a real treat wasn't he. About like Specter from Pennsylvania.
    The story got pretty humorous when Lugar took Obama to Russia.
     

    BugI02

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    Hohn, I'd like to rep you a Million points for that post. But I'd also like to answer Hatin's question a slightly different way.

    The Republican Elites do not care about the "stupid social issues" retail Republican voters would like to see addressed in a Conservative Media. As Hohn pointed out, they are the Chamber of Commerce. In addition to secretly loathing the principle of limited government, they would not care if transsexuals won all the womens' athletic championships, and every person who ever expressed a conservative view online got fired from their job tomorrow, or even if (in my opinion) there were some kind of forced gun-buyback. They do not care about that stuff, because all that "winning the culture" stuff is outside the mission objectives set by the Board of Directors of G.O.P., LLC.

    They just care about winning the Economic Policy War on behalf of Wall Street. And they don't need the media to do that. They just need to be able to donate to Congressional campaigns and lobby Congress, outside the light of day. As long as they have secured the economic playing field for Wall Street, the rest of you provincial rubes sleeping in your rumpled beds in Sht-ville U.S.A. can go suck an egg.

    Of course, like the rains bringing greenery to the plains of Africa every so often, G.O.P., LLC will still come to you every four years to seek your vote. But once the "crocodiles have eaten the zebras" one more time (or the locusts have picked everything clean, more accurately), it's back to your dried-up water hole with Glenn Beck on 24-hour loop (or whoever the crying evangelical Jimmy Bakker wannabe-of-choice happens to be at the moment).

    And you're going to see the outcome of this in 6 weeks, when Trump has lost the election and been exiled back to Mar-a-Lago. They have stood by while cowardly anonymous pension-seekers in the Joint Chiefs and other organs of the Foreign Policy Elite have committed leak after leak of classified information (**something they all wanted Edward Snowden to be hanged for**) in an attempt to topple an elected President and make Civilian authority obey the Military, rather than the other way around. They have allowed President Trump's voicing of legitimate concerns about how our economic and trade policies are deployed, to be mischaracterized as a racist, authoritarian modern throwback to the Third Reich, 24/7, 52 weeks a year, in every media stream imaginable.

    And in 6 weeks, they will get what they paid for. And we will be stuck beeching about it on a gun board.

    (PS - However, Eric Holcomb will get 4 more years. So shut up, put on your mask, and assume the position, Lugar voters).

    Luke 18:27

    You should not lose faith about this election. If it is meant to be, all of the dominions cannot not stop it
     

    jamil

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    There's Conservative Media, then there's media that's conservative.

    The former are part of the shell game of creating the illusion of choice. Hannity, Glenn Beck, etc. It's all hype, self promotion and endlessly about the $$ with these types. Ann Coulter will have yet another new book. Hannity will have yet another "bombshell" dud that makes Al Capone's vaults look like a real thing. These people are puppets for the Chamber of Commerce and the donor circle in DC. They aren't Conservative so much as Republican. And if you haven't figured out yet those are vastly different things, then it's unfortunate.

    Now the 2nd part, those are people I see who are principles-first kind of people. These are the people who criticize the Republicans as well as Democrats. These are the ones calling out the pork-pie projects with Rs as well as Ds. These are the people lamenting the mafia-like way the parties are run that explains the utter dysfunction of Congress. These people are mostly web-based.

    The reason that the Conservative Media is so corruptible and so predictable is because it's the front for the money interests. Small government has no constituency. Big government as all kinds of clients. The only difference between the massive gov't the Chamber of Commerce/Mitch McConnel wants and the massive gov't Pelosi and Schumer want is whose people will benefit.

    Many so-called conservative media has all kind of heartaches with massive pork projects for Green Energy-- solar scams, biofuels etc. They manufacture outrage all the time that billions is siphoned to far left causes.

    Yet they are conspicuously silent on the Chamber of Commerce interests running the GOP and giving out pork barrel benefits to a different tribe-- the "good guys" we're supposed to pretend aren't just a different trough feeder.

    The tiny slice of us that pay attention and try to shrink the scope and power of government are vastly outnumbered. In part because so many Republican voters are frankly idiots. They are too lazy to do even a little bit of research and just vote party line Republican.

    Doubt me?

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/146354...rchist-wins-nomination-new-hampshire-sheriff/

    To be fair, the transexual, satanist, anarchist ran unopposed for the GOP nomination and got 4K votes. She was going to win that nomination regardless, and will most likely lose in the general election. It appears to be a blue county. Hillary won there in 2016 by 13 points. Still, for the 4K who voted for her, I guess we could assume many of them are lever-flippers. Some might have other reasons.
     

    Ingomike

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    While largely agreeing with Hohn and Twangbanger, they are off a little in the current situation, and I want to point some things out.

    So called country club republicans are nearing extinction with most left in the senate. The nearly 40 republican house members retired from the house including Paul Ryan because they could not deliver what they had promised for years when Trump came to deliver it. That mass retirement of RINO's was the main reason Pelosi is speaker. Paul Ryan could have delivered and kept the gavel, but a cush job at FOX News board awaited. The senate with its 6 year terms will change slowly for that reason. At the moment Trump controls the RNC, though if he loses the fight will be on for a good while.

    Most of Wall Street is globalists and now have flipped to the democratic side and are playing woke right along with them.

    To the OP, Social media was sold as a way for people to connect, no conservative version will be able to succeed with out the traffic. The systems used by most of the social media are owned and no one could legally copy them. FB and Google account for the vast majority of ad revenue out there. We need to revoke the 230 protections and make them choose, conduit or publisher? Not both with protection.

    Several attempts have been made to start conservative entertainment but one must look at the funding structure of entertainment. The biggest pot by far is the retransmission fees from cable and satellite subscribers, that is what keep CNN, ESPN, TCM, and even the broadcast networks rolling in the dough. Until that cartel is broken it is just impossible to get on the roster and keep the lights on. As for movies I expect that to a place where as Hollywood continues to drive off the rails for the international audience, (think China) smaller studios can offer Americans entertainment competitively...
     
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