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    About the author of that opinion piece: "I am a writer, journalist, professor, systems modeler, computational and digital health expert, avocado-eater, and entrepreneur, not always in that order."

    So yes, it's clear that he is qualified to make judgements about her claims. WTF is "digital health expert" anyway? Someone that advocates for anti-virus software? He knows that computer viruses and real viruses aren't the same, right?

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    You can google a lot of articles published in reputable periodicals if you have a problem with Forbes.

    But, attacking the author isn't the same as attacking his facts. If you disagree with his facts and have rebuttal facts, lemme know.

    Otherwise....pfffft.
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    Why is anyone still even thinking about whether or not the release was accidental?
    The answers centering upon intent (cui bono) and what it bodes for our future should have dictated the actions of individuals a long time ago.
    "News" has been used to keep people befuddled, neutralized. Quite effectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpo View Post
    You can google a lot of articles published in reputable periodicals if you have a problem with Forbes.

    But, attacking the author isn't the same as attacking his facts. If you disagree with his facts and have rebuttal facts, lemme know.

    Otherwise....pfffft.
    I didn't really see any facts presented, so how is what he's doing to her any different than what I'm doing to him? He's attacking the messenger too. Are his opinions peer-reviewed? He's certainly entitled to them, as I am to mine. When did Forbes become a scientific journal anyhow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtTheMurph View Post
    I think you should have said "there were Level IV" as the US stopped this sort of research in the US in 2014.

    But that doesn't mean that the US didn't help fund such research in other countries, most notably in China. As did France and others.

    And the idea that a virus could spontaneously appear in nature perfectly suited to infect humans rather than it's current hosts is billions or trillions to 1.

    That such a virus could then infect an intermediary and produce enough copies, while making a 600-1000 mile trip to a specific wet market in Wuhan, less than 200 yards from a Level IV viral research lab conducting gain of function work on bat corona viruses, has to be well over 1 million to one.

    The combined odds of those occurrences happening in short order are pretty much infinite.

    It didn't come from Nature. Most likely someone in this lab, (which has had other exposure events) was exposed to bat piss, blood, spit, etc., then went home to quarantine for 20 days and thought they were in the clear only to be pre-symptomatic, goes to lunch with the co workers for some piping hot horseshoe bat colon soup and coughed on some woman selling tiger penis powder.
    You left out India. They're a great lab facility for testing and producing chemicals.
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    Well, without much problem, I found more information from YOUR side of the political spectrum. While not a peer review, it certainly seems that your "scientist" might not clear a peer review.

    https://nypost.com/2020/09/16/us-vir...ovid-19-claim/

    If Bannon is associated with it, what is the likelihood that it's a fraud on the public?
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    Like so many things, the politicization and censorship has made it impossible to have a rational or fact-based public discussion on this topic. If you express any suspicion as to the origins of the virus, you are automatically a right wing trumper conspiracy theory nutjob and it is legitimate to censor or ban you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halfmileharry View Post
    You left out India. They're a great lab facility for testing and producing chemicals.
    The initial analysis of the bug that was published from India was quite revealing. So much so that it was immediately attacked to stop discovery and conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpo View Post
    Well, without much problem, I found more information from YOUR side of the political spectrum. While not a peer review, it certainly seems that your "scientist" might not clear a peer review.

    https://nypost.com/2020/09/16/us-vir...ovid-19-claim/

    If Bannon is associated with it, what is the likelihood that it's a fraud on the public?
    I found several things in that article that were interesting.

    “It does not advance the inquiry. If anything, through its unsound reasoning, its oversold conclusions, and, most important, its sponsorship by Chinese fugitive billionaire [Guo] Wengui, it decreases — not increases — the likelihood the Chinese government will agree to an open and credible forensic investigation of the origins of the virus,” said Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist from Rutgers.

    But Whittaker said Yan’s report does offer a detailed explanation on how to grow the virus in a lab, which is sound. While he does lean towards the theory that Sars-Cov-2 occurred naturally, he said it’s too early to completely rule out the potential of it being man made.

    He and Dr. Nikolai Petrovsky, an endocrinologist from Australia’s Flinders University, also said Yan’s report provides a solid counterpoint to a March Nature article titled “The Proximal Origin of Sars-Cov-2” that argues there is no way the virus could have been grown in a lab.




    “All the tools were there, all the information was there to create the virus, she’s not proving it was created, she’s proving it was possible based on what was available at that time,” said Petrovsky, calling the Nature piece “horribly flawed commentary” that was “political.”


    Note that they're not ruling out that she is correct. In fact it sounds rather like she may have some sound reasoning to her beliefs. Also, her paper decreasing the likelihood that the Chinese government would agree to an open and credible investigation of the virus kinda makes it sound like she might have hit close to home, doesn't it? That's the way I'm interpreting that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ark View Post
    Like so many things, the politicization and censorship has made it impossible to have a rational or fact-based public discussion on this topic. If you express any suspicion as to the origins of the virus, you are automatically a right wing trumper conspiracy theory nutjob and it is legitimate to censor or ban you.
    You know now that you mention it, yeah I've noticed that.
    Make America blessed again.

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