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    Scope Side Mount On Synthetic Stock

    Anyone familiar with installing a scope side mount directly on a rifle stock of synthetic material?

    For my interests it would be for a muzzleloader with bedded barrel and tang. But, perhaps there's someone out there that has experience with stock materials with sufficient or insufficient tensile strength, thermal stability, bonding agents, whatever.
    Anyone?

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    Sights and sighting systems are not mounted to stocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sloughfoot View Post
    Sights and sighting systems are not mounted to stocks.
    Once more, for emphasis.

    "No. Never." is my answer.
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    That's going to be tough, one of the places I work has parts where metal is screwed to injection molded plastic and they make allowances for the movement of the screws even though the are in very tight. For composite layups like Kevlar and carbon they have tighter tolerances if that's what the stock is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sloughfoot View Post
    Sights and sighting systems are not mounted to stocks.
    I'd been circling this one, not wanting to be the first to post in case someone else more knowledgeable came along but since it's been said, I'll third it.

    I will however further the conversation by asking what is the motivation to mount it to the stock rather than the receiver or possibly barrel?

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    russc,
    As stated my interest is in trying it out on a muzzleloader.
    My suspicions are that this could work with a synthetic stock (depending upon the material), doing a nice bedding on the barrel and tang, high end epoxy for bonding of the mount to the stock. A picatinny rail could be bonded to the top of the barrel for a double lever quick disconnect mount for washing the barrel. However, not on the barrel would be better.

    Now that I'm getting long in the tooth and eye balls I'm experimenting a little with extended eye relief scopes on muzzleloaders and will be doing more. It's one of my favorite hobbies working with the antiquated techniques, molds, alloys, rifling geometry and twists, lubes, jackets, patching.

    A rifle that I'm eyeballing for this stock mounting project is an inexpensively obtained fifty with the industry typical 48" twist. It will likely work well with maxis, minies, perhaps with REAL's and maybe with my paper patched bullets. And no doubt a bean can across the yard will be short lived with .49 round ball and 40 weight patch.

    If it does work out it opens up some fun future possibilities with custom barrels that do not need sights. Maybe a target plinking and small game rifle using a Traditions Deerhunter as the platform, perhaps an octagonal to round tapered barrel to use .357 molds as well as .35 round ball. I'd be surprised if bedding was even needed.

    Any how, that's where my mind is running with this.
    And so far the best thing to try appears to be (of course!) JB Weld.

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    JB Weld, bringing things together for many years.
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    Get in touch with AllenM. I am sure he can figure something out for you that will actually work. (eg attaching the scope to the action, not the stock)

    The stock is relatively disconnected from the action. Attaching the scope to the stock would be accurate enough for a scatter gun, but thats about it. I wouldnt do it for a rifle.
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    also, where do we sign up to touch Frank's equipment?

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    This is a muzzleloader. In other words, the stock is the action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NKBJ View Post
    This is a muzzleloader. In other words, the stock is the action.

    Fine. Substitute barrel for action. The scope needs to be attached to the part the bullet comes out to be accurate. Plain and simple. Anything else won’t be accurate.

    Last edited by Cameramonkey; 07-29-2019 at 12:19.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Freeman View Post
    A confused cop is an arresty cop.
    Quote Originally Posted by hoosierdoc View Post
    also, where do we sign up to touch Frank's equipment?

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